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How many times do you link out from your PBN to money site?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by davids355, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Obviously a PBN needs to have fresh content added to it and not necessarily a link in each article so as to keep things looking natural. But I am just wondering, do you guys just link one article to money site and thats it, or do you keep posting new links to money site in subsequent articles?
     
  2. CeaseFireBlack

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    i dunno about PBNs, but if 20 peoples for exemple, each one has a single mney making website and are somehow in same niche, wouldnt be nice if they agree to backlink each others? isnt that doable ?
     
  3. davids355

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    You could do that yea, I remember there used to big a service for this - where you signed up and added your sites and received points depending on the metrics/power of those sites.

    Then you could use your points to automatically post content and links on other sites.

    Anyway, for me I'm trying to keep control over all my tier 1 links so the above is not good for me.
     
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  4. CeaseFireBlack

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    oh i think i'm improving my knowledge with seo x)
     
  5. T0NYS

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    My PBNs have only 1 outbound link pointing to a money site and that's it . I still keep updating them with new content and do link out to auth sites / sites not competing with me
     
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    I usually post 5-10 article before I link to money site then I maybe schedule another 10 article over the year or so. I only link out once to money site and most of my article won't have any outbound links since I wanna keep most of the link juice for myself:)
     
  7. Nargil

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    Just once. Linking twice leaves a footprint. Just never ever link to multiple money sites if you care about the sites, but I guess you know that already :)
     
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    I do link back once at a time for a each money site.
     
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    one PBN ---> one link to a money site. Be greedy but not too greedy
     
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    As many as you want. If you own your own for your own money sites, the less you link, the more power for each link. PBN SELLERS here have outrageous OBL OF 150+ which is why they sell cheaper links.
     
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    What about the link structure, do you guys always link from the home page?
     
  12. Nargil

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    That's the biggest red flag for detecting a PBN ever. I swear that 95% of the domains that I go through, that have full articles on homepage are PBN sites. Make it look natural, even though you will sacrifice some firepower.
     
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    A couple or few home page backlinks are okay, but you definitely do not want a whole bunch of them.

    Write (or buy) a unique article for your PBN and place your money site backlink in that article. On your PBN site, link to that article from the home page of the PBN. If you don't have many, or any, outbound links on the home page, and you only link to a couple or few inner pages on the site, then your new article will get a lot of the PR from the PBN home page, so you're still creating a strong backlink.
     
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    One link is enough, no need to keep linking out to the same money site over and over again.
     
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    People are way too scared about PBNs. Unless you have a 200+ PBN network google doesn't give a sht. I mean, when was the last time you even heard of someone having their pbn network penalized lol and every single time u heard it was from big sized pbn not small/medium sized networks.
     
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    1 OBL per site, maybe 2 max!
    I have NEVER had a problem with the big G.

    My advice for anyone starting with PBN's is to build each slowly, and don't make every PBN a single page blog that has 100's of articles pointing to numerous sites,

    * cough cough
    Some people in the marketplace.
     
  17. Nargil

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    One of mine was 50 and another was 100 sites big. That was a year ago. All my money sites went to hell as well, because I linked to all of them. This was for short term projects so I very well knew what I am doing and was expecting this, but still, it happens. And happens more often than you think.
     
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    Doesn't really seem possible to me. I'm pretty sure that google employees have a lot more stuff to do than look for small sized networks. Not to mention that every single PBN network in BHW would've been penalized by now, especially since they're public.
     
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    Well it happened. And I know about XY other people to whom it happened as well. Don't underestimate Google. Even small catch is better than nothing.

    And also, it's not too much of a problem. They surely have an algorithm with crawlers, which crawl the web and search for websites that can easily be PBNs. Like low outbound links to 1 site, full homepage articles, C class IPs, lowcost hosts, etc. These sites raise red flags and all that employees have to do is just to check them and penalize them. Not too much trouble for a company with virtually unlimited budget.
     
  20. davids355

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    I have mixture - some links from homepage, some just snippet of post on homepage, some links from pages rather than posts, some with footer links. And I have range of styles of sites - some blogs, some page based sites, some ecom style sites etc.