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How long will a new domain rank top today?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by blackwarriormonster, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. blackwarriormonster

    blackwarriormonster Registered Member

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    Hi friend,

    New domain VS aged domain(expired domain re-used), if I rank them with the same SEO methord, Which one will top to google first?

    How long will a new domain rank to page 1 nowadays? 2 months? 3 months? 6 months? or longer...

    Any kindly friend could explain for me? ;)
     
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    gullsinn Elite Member

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    It always depend on the domain name and it metrics and many other factors, on page off page, etc
     
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  3. mainceaft

    mainceaft Regular Member

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    aged domain is good will rank very well and fast . Even if you changed contents completely . new domain will take from you several months even year to see any improvement .
     
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  4. Mikaelo

    Mikaelo Regular Member

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    Look up Google's sandbox, it is speculation but i have seen it many times in action. I would suggest using an aged domain, look in waybackmachine and see if the previous content on the website matches what yours is going to use for.
     
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    Because it's now September, you're looking at 42 days to get to page 1, then another 17 days on top of that to get to number 1... so you do the math.
     
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    If my calculations are correct the answer is 2.7 billion years

     
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    there is many factors that affect ranking, such as: Domain/page authority, Keywords competition, Social signals (Facebook, Google shares for website ...) "very important", On-site optimization, Domain age, Current rank & many other factors.

    the domain age is one of most important factor, so in average you may get ranked within 3-6 months.

    sure the aged domains will rank faster, as it's more trusted for Google.

    BUT

    for example the new domain abc.xyz for the alphabet company, it's ranked in about 1-2 weeks in the 1st result, for the keyword "alphabet", this is because some other factors may do all the role, it's "backlinks"
     
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  8. SEOLearning23

    SEOLearning23 Newbie

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    For a new domain? I'd say give it two months. Old domain? Anywhere from 24 hours to 2 weeks
     
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    New domain takes 2-3 months to rank top if you done all the seo services perfectly
     
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    Kavinesh Regular Member

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    There are lot of factors, it depends upon your niche, keyword competition.. Usually it will take 3 to 6 months
     
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    Most of the answers here are ok. But the main answer is

    IT DEPENDS ON YOUR COMPETITION

    You can rank for none competitive words in minutes (literally - I've done it - look up "cokfudge" Google will ask if you mean cook fudge - ignore that)
    I ranked that word number one in about 12 minutes from an old spammy Warcraft site I own

    Want to rank for IPhone single word page one?
    You will probably never do it.

    By far the biggest factor is competition. The other sites - with other webmasters - many of whom are building links and optimizing content and responding to any threat you might present to their current position.

    There is no set time - but whatever the length might be for your term is by far the biggest factor is COMPETITION
     
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    BTW - I created not one single link to rank that word. Just a Facebook post. Again the more competitive the niche - the more links you are going to need
    There is no "one size fits all" answer to any of this.
     
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    Also, adding to Scritty's excellent reply, if your domain is old but has been penalized in the past, the age won't help.
     
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    Don't over-complicate things, its very simple. Lets say you use the exact same method on a new one and an old domain with 0 backlinks, cleared of anything. The old domain will rank first cause of the age factor. Plain and simple, nothing to add, nothing to deduct.

    Now the exact number of days/months to rank a certain stuff, is not answerable by anyone. Even by Google Algorithms
     
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    The backlinks from aged domains are more valuable than the backlinks from new domain. Therefore, aged domains will rank up faster than the new domains.

    It depends on how long will your new domain rank, no exact days or months. But you could rank the new domain faster if you do all the right SEO factors.
     
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    With a new domain we are currently seeing it take about 5 months to hit the top 5. This is assuming you're doing SEO right, but you can definitely rank faster with an aged domain.

    Also, there seems to be a sandbox period of around 90 days where you won't see any rankings. Depending on the rate at which you put out your PBNs and how powerful they are you might be able to see results around the 90 day marker.
     
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    SEO is something which you learn with experience and it's more of trial and error method. Many things which I have learned with time and one of them is long tail keywords work better and more over backlinks created via commenting helps you a lot.
    Here's why it's impossible to answer exactly how much does it take to rank high in search engines today:
    Reason #1: Click-through rate
    Part of Google's algorithm looks at a click-through rate. It calculates it as a percentage, reflecting the number of clicks you receive from the total number of people searching for that particular phrase you rank for.
    The higher the percentage, the more appealing your listing is compared to the competition. And if your click-through rate is higher than everyone else's, Google will slowly start moving you up the search engine results page as this algorithm factor tells it that searchers prefer your listing.
    Reason #2: Backlinks quality
    Google doesn't just look at the sheer number of backlinks a site has—it also looks at relevancy and authority.
    In addition to having the right backlinks, those sites also have a spot-on anchor text for these links. Most SEOs think you need rich anchor text links to rank well, but the reality is you don't.
    You think your new site gets hq backlinks?
    Reason #3: Content quality
    Since its Panda update, Google has been able to determine content quality of websites. For example, it can determine whether a site is too thin or has duplicate content, allowing for a much better analysis of content quality than before.
    Reason #4: Competition
    The beautiful part about ranking for certain keywords is that they are low in competition. And some of these low competitive terms don't get searched often.
    From what I've seen, the results pages for these low competition key phrases aren't updated by Google as often as some of the more competitive terms are. Why? Because more people are viewing the competitive terms.
    If you were Google, wouldn't you focus your resources on ensuring that popular terms and results pages are updated more frequently than phrases that aren't searched for very often?
    Reason #5: Growth rate
    What should you do if you want to rank really high for a keyword? Build a ton of relevant backlinks and write a lot of high quality content, right?
    Although that's true, what happens is a lot of webmasters grow their link count a bit too fast...so fast that it seems unnatural. And chances are it is.
    Google is smart enough to know this as it has data on a lot of sites within your space. For this reason, you see a lot of older sites ranking well as they are growing at a "natural" pace versus one that seems manufactured.
    So the next time you are trying to figure out why your new site ranks well when it shouldn't, chances are it's because of one or more reasons on the list.

    As a website owner, you shouldn't focus too much on your competition; instead, you should focus on improving your website. In the long run, the company with the best product or service tends to win.