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How long does it take for Google to penalize a site for spammy links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by DevilHands, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. DevilHands

    DevilHands Junior Member

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    Let's say I bought a bad seo service and their service can't remove the links they built probably for reasons like they forgot the password for the profiles/web 2.0 they built or you got into an argument with them.

    You know in your heart that these links look pretty spammy but does not know if google sees it the same way, additionally most of these does not seem to show up in webmaster tool yet.

    How long does it take after you purchase a service and got your report before you know that you are safe and won't have to worry anything at all?

    Are penalties usually immediate after spammy links has been built?

    Also, do all types of penalties show up on your webmaster tool?
     
  2. onlineonly

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    You won't know. They can give you a penalty anytime, may it be tomorrow or a year from now, impossible to say.

    How many spammy links you got from that service?
     
  3. DevilHands

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    Probably around 1000, its not showing up on webmasters and only a couple has been showing up on other backlink checkers. Most of their post seems to be deindex or not index yet. It seems to be also that some of them are dying on their own?

    Is there a way to remove web 2.0 page without a password? Like for example contacting their support to have the whole site removed?
     
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    Months. Years. I don't know. I have seen lots of websites with tons of spammy backlinks living very well!
     
  5. DevilHands

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    Will it help if at this point I start building more authoritative links to it in order to build trust for the site? Kind of worried if I continue to invest on this site but I'll get the ax eventually anyway because of these crappy links.
     
  6. onlineonly

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    Yes that will help but you can still get a penalty. Did you invest much time and money already in this project? If not get a new domain and start over.

    You can still keep the old one and blast it with more links and see what happends. Maybe it will rank.
     
  7. DevilHands

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    Yes... already invested a lot in it both time and money. What if the links are just there without getting index? I think I might have stop them from indexing these sites by a indexing service after my complaint. Some of them seems to be indexing naturally though... :/

    Due to low quality of these profiles, some of them seems to be dying on their own too.
     
  8. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    It varies, if the links are really shit they might never get indexed. Don't worry about it for now, wait and see and if they do start to get indexed then disavow them.
     
  9. DevilHands

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    Does disavow really work? I've heard its just some tool that sends out google team to check out your site manually. Does this mean as long as they dont get index or they've put my site in a deindex blog then I am good?
     
  10. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    If the links aren't indexed then they won't affect your site, a lot of poor links won't get indexed or drop off quickly.
    1000 crappy links won't necessarily have any effect.

    Add decent content on a regular basis and build/buy better quality links, don't blast them, but be consistent.
     
  11. DevilHands

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    ^Thanks that made me feel a lot better. If 1000 links is not enough, what then have other webmasters done to their site that has Google algorithmically or manually penalize them?

    I've been really researching a lot this time before buying any links.
     
  12. Asif WILSON Khan

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    They are penalized for the crappy links that do get indexed.
    https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604824?hl=en
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_penalty
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=manually+penalize
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=algorithmic+penalty

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. DevilHands

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    Ok thanks, I'll just hope for the best these links dont ever get index.
     
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    Reported as a spam bot , copy spin paste of a previous comment
     
  15. DevilHands

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    Lol, no wonder that was weird. If its ever spun, that's a pretty darn good spin.
     
  16. redarrow

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    No one no that ansaw but if you no the links are spammy you can ask google to delete them and un index them .

    I think afther google bot looks/spiders at your website/links and already backlinks, i think it starts from there flags start to show untill your ban.

    I recon afther the spider get info needed flags are added to google database and then gives you the website owner a month or two to un index them with google tool or ban whole website..
     
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  17. DevilHands

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    These links doesnt show up on my webmasters yet. It might seem unnatural if I disavow them.
     
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    Webmaster tools doesn't show you all the links google knows about your site. So if most of the spammy links are not being shown in webmasters, it doesn't mean google is unaware of them.

    You can never say when. There are a lot of variables involved.
    Some links when they are built might not be looked at as bad by google but later in time they get flagged as spammed pages. None knows when.
    ( Over sold PBN links, spammed pages with blog comments are the examples)
    Their are some penalties, that occur only when a certain algorithm refreshes (like penguin), so you will never know if you are safe or not until the algo updates and you can't know when.
    All in all, there is no general rule of thumb to determine the safe interval of time you can stop worrying after. All you can do is try your best to remove the spammy links before an algo refreshes, someone reports your website or your website link profile is manually audited (case with high traffic websites)


    I have been reading rumours on penguin going realtime but the news is unconfirmed yet. But their are certain real time algos that slap you in real time as soon as built in criteria for spam trigger. Websites are pushed back just a few pages suddenly. Been a victim myself several times. It can happen anytime, a few days, a few weeks or months later.

    Manual actions, like thin content penalty, unnatural links, spam do show up in webmaster tools. There are some that do not.[/quote]
     
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  19. DevilHands

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    ^But as long as these are not index then its safe?

    BTW, is it ok to disavow links before I get any penalty?
     
  20. redarrow

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    I dont think there any harm trying to disallow links if they are spammy, i am sure you can not get in trouble for trying to delete bad links , maybe the spider has not yet caught up with indexing the links in question....
     
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