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How long do police/law enforcement keep records of an open file ?

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  1. chicken goes cluck

    chicken goes cluck Registered Member

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    Hello i want to ask this forum of brilliant minds on how long police/law enforcement keep records of an open file ?

    Lets say that the person was integrated 4 times by 2 different detectives and integrated 1 time by a prosecutor.

    Lets say that the person did not get arrested or did not have to go to court along with everyone else that was in there investigation.

    Now my question is how long would the police/law enforcement keep records of an open file? Until it is completely off of there books forever?
     
  2. EntrepreneurCure

    EntrepreneurCure Newbie

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    The book would remain open as long as the case is open. The person mentioned is obviously a " person of interest" so they wont rule that person out until they close the case.
     
  3. Bartholomew

    Bartholomew Regular Member

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    I think all this data is kept indefinitelly now. Why? Just because they can.
     
  4. HoneyHelper

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    The data is kept permanently ;)
     
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    'They' should at least be well integrated by now, if nothing else.
     
  6. GroundUp

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    I'm guessing you mean *interrogated
     
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    Forever the Big Bro doesnt forget
     
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    I think data will be kept permanently
    until the case is open book will be in open
     
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    there is permanent data from being arrested,being in prison,appearing in court. i mean you can even find that info out just by looking on public databases.

    but i very highly doubt that all the data is kept permanently from cops asking questions/interrogations

    think about it your talking from 1776 to 2015 and you would be talking about over hundreds of millions of records from open files/closed cases.

    its like recording how many times a cop talks to someone else.

    just image how many interrogations are done in just 1 day alone across the united states.
     
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    i highly doubt data is kept permanently of people that are deceased. i mean what would be the point?
     
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    Pretty stupid question IMHO.

    Where do you live? Belgium? Saudi Arabia? Uruguay? They all have different laws.

    Many countries have a limited amount of time they can keep or use information that has not led to prosecution. Tell us where you live and we'll go from there.
     
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    Maybe this is what you're looking for. It depends on the seriousness of the crime of course.

    A statute of limitation is a law which forbids prosecutors from charging someone with a crime that was committed more than a specified number of years ago. The general purpose of statutes of limitation is to make sure convictions occur only upon evidence (physical or eyewitness) that has not deteriorated with time.

    Edit: Don't break the law.
     
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    Unfortunately that information is ketp indefinitely. But after 5-10 years they can't use it against you. ( All though in most cases they do)
     
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    As someone posted here, obviously all depends where you actually live. Different country = different laws. The US is not very big on privacy so expect it to be on record longer than other countries. Just look at where Google has to be more strict with cookies, privacy etc. and you will find a trail towards other information as well.
     
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    As others have said records are kept indefinetly. Even if a person of interest dies they will keep what they found out. As long as the case is open they want to be able to review the details especially if additional information is discovered. When the statute of limitations has passed or if a minor is involved and the case file sealed the police will still keep the records. In many states you have to get a court order to have the records destroyed if a case is closed or can't be prosecuted.
     
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    You asking for a friend?
     
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    In US, UK, Ireland, etc minor crimes can stay on file for up to 100 years. Even non-custody crimes like stealing can stay on file for 40-50 years.

    Open investigations don't matter cause as long as they're open noone has access but law enforcement.

    I also know just in the US, with a 1st degree felony on my record I passed every background check I ever took when applying for a job. I went as far as finding 2 of the most popular and doing independent checks which returned "no record on file". Till this day I don't know why my record doesn't show up but it doesn't.

    What's also interesting. You can have murder on your record, a cop can pull you over for speeding and won't be able to access that record unless you're still on parole or happened to kill a cop. Otherwise if you're off parole that information won't show up same if you didn't kill a cop.

    So there's a big difference between the way data is stored vs the way it's accessed. Sometimes an employer will find that gum you stole at 16 and reject you for a job. Other times you can have a meth lab on your record and checks return no record.

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  18. chicken goes cluck

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    yes i meant to say interrogated sorry my english is not the best

    and i currently live in the united states and i was asking about the united states record keeping
     
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    Investigation is temporary, Data is Permanent:p
     
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    Speaking (unfortunately) as a convicted felon. The government never forgets.

    If you avoided arrest and being charged....let me save you the expensive legal advice and simply tell you...stop speaking about the event! Hopefully a warrant is never issued.

    I was released in 2004...I serve an invisible sentence every time I go to look for an apartment or different job. I accept that it will be this way for life. The rule of thumb is Don't do the crime if you can't accept a LIFE sentence. (and yes this does lead to regular citizens getting killed by spooked criminals committing otherwise more minimal offenses)

    If this person DID get popped...that sucks...but one day they will rebuild. You just have to be really stubborn about it to do it.

    You want to ask me when its over? It's an institutional situation and it's over when they say it's over...or if the statute of limitations expires. Recommendation: For "the person" you are referencing...is to very quietly enjoy their freedom.

    Want a real life situation? A WWII Navy Vet was arrested 50some years after the fact. What happened? A bar fight in Hawai'i while he was a seaman on shore leave. A warrant was issued but he never returned to Hawaii and didn't know about it. He was stopped for a traffic violation and "picked up" for this open detainer. Obviously Hawaii dropped the matter and didn't extradite cause that is just LAME. But it does go to show...things stay in the system a long long time. I found a news article about my Grandma being arrested in 1939 for public intox.

    P.S. I do not know where the idea of a cop not being able to look up a murderer comes from. All I can say to refute is that I had a second degree felony (not murder). All probation, work release & sentence served. The sheriff that pulled me over ran my license and had NO TROUBLE AT ALL coming back (a little nervous) and inquiring about my history. A subtle southern way of saying I know about ya buddy. The arrest was by a city level agency within that county. Also possible situational modifier, the sheriff's detention unit classifies mine as a violent offense (max security only) while state level penal system classifies it as much less of a security concern.
    It really depends on your jurisdiction...end of story.