Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by reallife, Aug 31, 2013.
Got the letter yesterday - how long should it be before I expect to see the hammer?
Just wait and watch lol. Before Google take any serious action on your website, find and take all of the bad links down. If you don't know about the bad links. Just Google it how to search them or use BHW search bar.
I know the bad links, they're what took me from -300 to #1 lol
you saped the shit out of google haha. keep us informed though, how long to get out of the serps after the unnatural links warning.
No means yes. lol
aroudn 2-5 days usualy.
Let us know. Seems like a lot of sites got the nasty warning in the last 48 hours without having lost rank yet. Would be good to establish a time-frame of their actions. Sorry you got the warning, but lets turn this into a learning experience.
Can take up to 7 days. Sometimes also not all your KWs will be hit all at once. So eg if you have 5 KWs you spammed to the top then 3 might drop first after a week and then 4th after another week and then finally the 5th after yet another week. It all varies but expect drop to start from 3 to 7 days.
Are you guys who have experienced penalties all using SAPE or something else? Just curious.
According to this thread: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/601676-sape-finally-busted.html lot's of people were using Sape. I got the message on two sites today too and they were using Sape... but also many other things. There are still tons of Sape sites going strong though.
5-7 days usually but can be up to 30 days if more complex
I've never gotten such an email. What email do they send the warning to?
The email you use for Google Webmaster Tools.
But ranking of my website dropped at the same time though all keywords were still at page 1. Before manual action most were ranking in top 3. After ranking drop i log in to webmaster tools and found the unnatural link message there. On Aug 30, I noticed improvement in ranking for some of the keywords but main keywords did not improve. I was using mostly partial match as anchor.
Drops usually take place within 1-3 weeks based on previous experience.
I got the unnatural link warning for 70% of my SAPE promoted sites, even the ones that were only lightly promoted with SAPE.
Rest of the sites in my portfolio seem to be unaffected (non SAPE sites).
Usually google does "big sweeps" all in one go, which is not necessarily done in 1 day. This way people won't be able to start buying the links for negative SEO because there might not be a second sweep.
Just 1 "sweep" is usually enough to cause panic and destroy all the services selling the links. Look back at private blog networks. Huge wave of de-indexation, penalty, and panic, and then after everything settled down - private blog networks were safe again, but a lot of people were too afraid to use it for almost an entire year. That is probably google's goal. They don't need to stop SAPE, they just need to scare enough people so they stop using it.
Also got a warning today, unnatural link profile. I will just not remove the links, the msg google send me is they will devalue the unnatural links. So they will devalue all the bad links, great i think it will give my website a boost ;-)
this is what happened to me last time.
main kw dropped within the week. secondary kws dropped 2-3 weeks later
Four days and the first kw have dropped from #1 to #7/9.
What I can't figure out is why I got this penalty on a site that had SAPE links for 1 month back in April. I canceled it after 1 month and I have been building almost entirely white hat links with unique content and I haven't built any spam links.
So why 5 months later am I getting a penalty from this?
It's total bullshit if I get penalized for SAPE links when they were all removed months ago. I didn't even get a boost in rankings from it. Since then I don't even see any surges in link building, just continuous links being made slowly.
Waiting to hear back on my reconsideration request. Hopefully, they will tell me when these "unnatural links" occurred.
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