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How legible does spun content have to be?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. Ranko Jones

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    I am bursting out laughing reading what the spinner comes up with after putting an article through it.

    I was just thinking- how legible does it have to be for creating web 2.0 thingys?

    Do people read them before approval?

    If it was something technical the 'reviewer' wouldn't necessarily know about the niche would they so wouldn't know if it made sense or not?

    Are some of the article directories auto approve so you can throw any junk up on there for the backlink?

    What level of legibility do you generally aim for with web 2.0/article directory spun material?

    At this rate for a 500 word article, the amount of blunders the spinner makes it would still be quicker for me to rewrite the sentences myself if I only wanted one version so I might just get 5 unique articles from Ezine and rewrite them myself.

    Since I'm new to spinning content I am sure I am not using it properly yet so please illuminate me anyone who is more versed in using them.
     
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  2. ash1ey

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    Using the best spinner I like to manually read through and do everything myself to make sure it makes perfect sense, I generally get an article to at least 70% unique before submitting to web 2s and article directories.

    Just hitting the 'auto spin' button just wont cut it 95% of the time. Better to make it readable so it lasts longer.
     
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  3. Ranko Jones

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    I actually did a mix of spinning and rewriting which I think turned out quicker than just rewriting the whole thing.

    spun 1st then read through and rewrote sentences that required it all the while having a good laugh at what the spinner came up with :).
     
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    That's what I do also. Spin, rewrite some sentences, spin again, rewrite and then sometimes do it a 3rd time.
     
  5. Ranko Jones

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    I just signed up to squidoo, where am I supposed to put my link to the money site?

    Do I just put it in anchour text like I would for ezine?
     
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    Ranko, I read my comments and some are hilarious. Wrote some of my favorites in another thread.
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  7. Given

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    It really depends on what your goals are.

    If you just want to rank your pages to use them as a doorway to gain link juice it doesn't have to be to great. It just can't look like random crap. Make it legible enough to not be marked as spam.

    If this content is being posted to promote a product it should be very readable or else your poor quality article could reflect on the reputation of the product.

    In general if you plan on people reading your article it should be good. If it's just for the SE the quality can be inferior.
     
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    I usually add spintax manually (I don't just press a button for it), so they are mostly readable. For AMR and SENukeX I don't really care if they pass a manual review - it's mostly about quantity over quality.

    But I also submit to some web2.0 and directories manually and I want those to stick so I proof read the articles and fix the glaring grammatic errors.

    The better I spin the articles the first time, the less I have to do each time I proofread one for a high quality site.
     
  9. DamnTees

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    I do this as well. Spinners are good for making an article unique but not too legible. I find a spin and a rewrite adding or subtracting text as I go definitely goes a long way for a site.
     
  10. partymarty4870

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    It's all about quantity using spun articles and web 2.0's. In the time you've spent making it legible I've posted it 50 times.
    I admit it may get rejected or spam filtered 20 of those times - but I'm still 30 ahead.
    An article is all just keywords and links to googles algo. Remember the algo is computer code and nothing more. It isn't a human being.
     
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    On my thoughts partymarty! I download 20 articles, auto-spin at 90% and post them as they are, with the proper anchor/link. :)
     
  12. Jabong82

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    I'm one of those "auto-spin" fools. I use spun articles for link juice only, and with a push of a button I can get 50%+ uniqueness. I don't expect actual humans to read it, nor do I expect it to direct traffic to my site.

    I can spin and blast an article to 1000 directories in like 10 minutes.

    For me just like partymarty said, its all about quantity.
     
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    That's what I'm asking really- if they would get rejected for being crappy.

    I have no problems with putting out crappy content but if it got reviewed by a human like ezine does then it would get rejected right?

    So I'm wondering which ones go through human review and which don't?

    I subbed to squidoo and hubpages the other day and I know neither of those did.

    How about other article directories?

    Also I don't know why you guys want to spin loads of different articles since I have been told by someone who makes 10k a month and also read around that there is no penalty for duplicate content so long as it is not on your site. They said the only penalty for dup. content is if it was the same stuff on your own site so what is the point of spinning loads of diff articles, noone is comparing them let alone knowing you are the same source of those articles.

    Sure if you are scraping content then spin that at first but why not just throw that same article out to loads of places?

    Reading an article on the subject they gave an example- they said imagine how many people might be quoting the exact same text legitimately. They said there is just too much legitimate duplicate content to penalize or enforce anyone that might be deliberately putting it out there.
     
  14. Bross

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    That's why I think thebestspinner is not worth it.
    I use Spinnerchief manually and it works perfectly.

     
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    You are correct in that the duplicate content penalty only applies to pages on your own site.

    However the reason that we spin articles is that we want MULTIPLE spun versions of our article to be indexed by Google because all of our articles will contain backlinks.

    So the theory is we spin 100 versions of our article hoping that 100 versions get indexed by Google, and thus we get credit for 100 backlinks (assuming 1 backlink per article) in Google's eyes.

    If we sent the same article out to 100 different places, the majority of them would not be indexed, as Google will see them as the exact same article and it would be worthless to index it 100 times.

    I hope that clears up some confusion.
     
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    thanks for the clarification but as per my example those articles were still indexed by google even if they are the same content- ie loads of places quoting the same source right?
     
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  18. ipodlover

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    What I find with the spinners is that they do a "good" job helping us spun a "different" article. But the search engines and article websites are getting smarter. For example I had an article on ezine that I actually wrote myself. I then spun that article and try to post it as a different author, and the ezine engine saw it as too similar, even though the spinner told me it is 100% spun.

    So if the ezine engine can spot that it is somewhat identical, I'm sure the search engines can too. So can someone explain how we can beat this?
     
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    Depends where you're submitting it. I blast shit loads of articles with AMR out every day, and I'm more concerned about quantity than quality with those articles (plus I don't have the time to make sure the articles are of decent quality everyday). So for those articles, I chuck them into TBS and click 'Replace Everyone's Favourites'. I don't link these articles to my money site.

    For linkpushes, or anything linking directly to my money site, I spend more time and use TBS to manually create a quality, spun article which makes sense and looks perfectly natural.