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How is YouTube flagging my comments as spam so quickly?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by TheMoneyWizard, Jun 19, 2013.

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  1. TheMoneyWizard

    TheMoneyWizard Elite Member

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    Hi,

    I know I have asked a lot of questions related to Commenting, but every time I create one I learn something new and I get one step closer to fixing this annoying problem.

    So this is the problem I am having:

    I can't post comments without the comment instantly marked as spam. I want to mass spam my comment to videos in my niche.

    I use to be able to just copy and paste the same comment and mass post it on lots of videos. I didn't even use a different account or change my IP. The comments would last for 3-4 days before being marked as spam, some comments lasted even longer. This wasn't that long ago, it was about 2-3 months ago. I use to be able to bank pretty well when I could do this.

    Now however this is not the case. I tried using Proxies and YT accounts. I tried switching proxy provider and YT account provider, still no luck.

    Next I moved onto trying a custom made bot. It allowed me to spin the comments, use proxies and YT accounts again. It worked, but then all the accounts got banned. When I say worked, I mean the comments lasted less than a day before being marked as spam, so still not as good as it was!

    I have a dynamic IP so I thought I would use my IP and try it with a new account. So I posted a test comment, then checked with a proxy to see if it had instantly been marked as spam, to my surprise it wasn't instantly marked as spam. So I thought I would just mass spam the same comment on lots of different videos, when I checked with a proxy 10 minutes later, all my comments were gone again!

    The comments still show when I view them with my IP, but for everyone else they can't see my comments. But if someone else goes to 'All Comments' on the YT video, they can see my comment marked as spam. It gets marked as spam as soon as I hit the post button!

    I need help with this problem desperately, I was even thinking about creating a JV and getting someone else to comment. However, I would be worried someone would steal all my niches.

    Anyone have any ideas. Any help is really appreciated, thanks! :)
     
  2. KELLOGGS

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    Have you moved niche? It may be that the video owners are just faster to mark as spam as they used to be. Try looking for a new niche but other than that, you've tried everything I would suggest already.
     
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  3. TheMoneyWizard

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    Thanks for the suggestion, however that's not the problem. I forgot to include this; in my niche every video is spammed with comments similar to mine, other peoples comments seem to stick. So I know the problem is only happening to me. Also it's definitely not the owner of the videos, I know this because as soon as I hit the 'Comment' button my comment in instantly marked as spam :(

    But thanks anyway for the help. Anyone else have any other ideas?
     
  4. Joe563

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    In your OP, was all the posting done with your Custom Bot? What was the ratio of Accounts to Comments in 1 Run? How many Accounts did you use in 1 Run? What delay did you set? Could you post a sample Comment? (You can blank out any links etc)

    YouTube Spam detection and Algo is second to none, they can classify spam comments through various means...

    1) Words in comments matching keywords in their Spam Database

    2) The number of Characters in a Comment

    3) The Account history, Aged Vs New. Create Gmail but No E-Mails? then after Create YT Account and the first activity is a Spam Comment?

    4) Too many Comments from a new Account and continuous commenting on the same Niche

    5) Too many Spam/Banned Accounts and Accounts logging from the same subset of I.P's

    6) Near enough instantaneous commenting after Login

    7) The Account Activity History is complete with commenting only

    8) Comments always have links

    ...and as someone posted, your competitors might have been flagging your comments!

    I suggest posting the same Comments manually in a Browser, what was your result?

    Since with using a Browser Based Commenter Bot I get great results, coupled with the fact that I have a large number of Accounts and varied comments, I usually keep the ratio 1:2 per 8 minute interval. Ratio may sound small but I have 1,000's of Accounts with a sufficient number of Proxies, so making 100's of comments per Account and getting them all banned is not wise, but doing things en masse with a key to longevity is my goal!
     
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  5. TheMoneyWizard

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    Thanks for all the information!

    I used about 50 accounts in 1 run. In this run I was posting to about 100-150 videos. I left about a 1 minute gap between each comment.

    As for the sample comment, I can't as my comment gives away my niche.

    I am going to buy some new accounts again. Also I want to buy new proxies but I don't really know a decent supplier, who do you use?

    I might buy some new accounts and proxies then I might buy your bot, as I have some spare money in my PP account :)

    If I got new proxies and accounts, stuck to what you said and used your bot to comment, do you think I would still get this annoying issue?
     
  6. Joe563

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    That ratio sounds about right, 2-3 Comments per Account.

    You need to increase the delay to maybe 5 minutes, remember speed is not important but the comment not getting flagged is, so a 5 minute delay sounds good. Since each Account makes 2-3 Comments then those comments would need to be unique for the Account, some with or without links and different keywords, number of characters etc

    Proxy Providers that you could use are, Proxy51, Proxy Blaze, Proxy Bonanza, NewIPNow

    Bottom line with posting is that if it looks like Spam, then it probably is Spam and will get marked as that, what you need to do is to make sure you cover all your bases, so you decrease the chances of this happening. Commenting with a Browser would give you different results to any Socket solution since its giving YT what they want.

    Something you could try with your existing solution is to comment with fresh account, I.P, set delay 5 mins, 1 comment per Account, use 10 Accounts, Unique Comment per Account with varied number of characters across them, make it 1 thread as well. The comment should have NO links or suspect keywords but be completely natural on an unrelated video, say "Neighbours" or "Home and Away" (Its an Australian Drama, otherwise known as a "Soap") Keep the comment relevant to the context and observe your result.
     
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    Joe nailed it, it is usually a combo of those items he listed.

    I have also found that using bad proxies/IPs will also get it instantly flagged. It's automated by YouTube not being manually flagged by users.
     
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  9. Checkmate

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    Is it marked as spam or marked as spam because of too many negative votes? if its marked as spam because of neg votes that is your competition causing that.

    Edit: Nevermind, just reread your post and you pointed out it is instant.
     
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  10. TheMoneyWizard

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    Thanks, I am going to order some new proxies. Do you buy Shared or Private Proxies?

    Also I think I will go for Proxy Blaze, are they any good?

    If you don't mind me asking; who do you buy YT accounts from?

    One last question, with YT Commander there was this annoying issue where the bot skips random videos from my list of videos to comment on. Does your bot ever have this problem? Also does it have a feature to get to top comment?

    Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it!
     
  11. YouFeelMeDawg?

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    Lets go over some important points here.

    Youtube commenting affects youtube spam anti-spam filters systematically. Each comment is analyzed by its keywords and LINE content(very important to remember that).

    So you can actually avoid detection if you were to do something like this

    bla bla bla Keyword
    bla bla bla bla
    bla bla bla bla
    bla bla bla keyword

    where bla == random(string)
    Another thing to remember is that there are technically 3 ways to get your comment marked as spam.

    1st. is done by youtube instantly as you post your comment
    2nd is done by users flagging your comment(4 valid flags, not just 4 flags but 4 flags that are counted as valids)
    3rd. you or someone else posting excessively your comment

    The third one is the one I want to go over with in more details.

    It is techinically possible and very cheap to get any keyword marked as spam instantly and make it appear as youtube did it.
    All you have to do is spam it constantly on ANY video, after it gets marked as spam, you can stop spamming for 20 minutes(while the temporary spamming block is on), do that longer and you will successfully get the keyword blocked for a longer period of time.

    So no matter, what ip's you use, accts if you spam the same keyword within a close period of time you will get the keyword temporary banned/blocked.

    Another thing that is so important to understand is that youtube anti-filters are not only accts/proxies thats like probably 5% of the whole equation.

    YOu have to look at other variables, for example I know youtube for deciding a valid rating they look extremely closely at 3 things

    First, is that bg_response cookie that is set to disabled, it is activated by JS and it keylogs your keystrokes, mouse clicks along with their timestamp and makes a very long key that replaces the value js_disabled on bg_response variable.
    They added that on login , and before it was on the sign UP page.

    The second thing they look at is those extra cookies , i think of them is called "Activity" which are set when you browser youtube via a browser because those cookies are set by JS

    Third, is the google analytics cookies(am actually trying to try this out where i take the cookies from my browser and insert them into an http bot to see the difference)

    The first one is a giveaway that your using an http bot, and something they don't want, because all browsers would fill that up (so if you send js_disabled, its very obvious that you are a bot)

    On top of that, custom bot means absolutely nothing(is a way to sell it to the noobs). If you truly want to understand youtube anti-spam algorithm you gotta go deeper than just accounts and proxies, you gotta look under the hood.See your http requests, and you need to know your accounts like the back of your hand.


    Just keep in mind, accounts don't really get banned for commenting, or if they get flagged on every comment.Your talking maybe like 1% of them get banned. Now if your accounts are getting banned fromc ommenting, they are either too new and you started commenting right away(that shit happens, when they banned newly created accts that just started spamming so wait a few days with your accts) or there is something really wrong with your accts.

    I know this for a fact, cause i ve done commenting and seen it where accts don't really get banned from commenting. Now marked as spam that is another thing though, that does happen regularly .
    Anyone who is really into commenting on youtube, will never ever go through all of their accts in a day. Use 5-15% of your accts each day and let them rest, rotate them and make sure you keep them in the same area code(or atleast country location).

    Also btw, avoid all proxy sellers from bhw at all costs for yt. People can tell you otherwise, but a real commenter on yt doesn't use bhw proxies not even if they are private, because most of the time those proxies are an oxymoron(there aren't really any private proxies anymore, you get sloppy seconds)
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to type all that out! My thanks button is still away however my rep button isn't :)

    Just one question, who do you use for Proxies?

    Also do you have your own YT commenting bot?


    Well I can't really sum you up in one word but if I had more time I would shitlist you so fast!

    You're scamming scum, you took an argument way too far and you made some sick comments about the death of a UK solider.

    I am one day going to reveal your whole scam. But I will give everyone else a quick warning; Alfonso is trying to sell his mass commenting bot for $320. He is clever with his promotional methods, he always bigs it up in threads about commenting. Then people PM him about it, you then add him on Skype, he gives you some BS about how he hardly ever sells any licences to anyone but he will do for you. He tells you that he is earning $900/day with it and he will show you some fake proof.

    LOL why would he want to sell you a bot for $320 when it earns him over $900/day?

    Also when you turn down his deal he will then steal your niche, attack your site, hack your YT accounts and more.

    Here is an example of him boasting about his bot, he words it pretty cleverly. He is obviously trying to get people to PM him so he can sell it:

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    Also I am not the only one who knows he is a scammer, look at what other people have to say about him:

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    If I had more time Alfonso I would shitlist you. I just hope no one else falls for your scam. Also I have gone through your posts, you say you're making $500/month then the next thing you say is you're making $900/day LOL!

    Also Alfonso's first posts are the ones where he is desperately trying to get everyone to add him on Skype for his "Private Bot".

    Stay out of my thread Alfonso I am sick of your scams!
     
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    Noticed this too! ^^
     
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    Thanks everyone for the useful help, I managed to solve this problem, so I will try to +rep everyone who helped as my thanks button is still gone.

    I am closing this thread before Alfonso turns this thread into an argument. However I hope someone will see this and think before doing business with this scammer!

    THREAD CLOSED!
     
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