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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by gypsydogg, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. gypsydogg

    gypsydogg Regular Member

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    Could someone tell me how this site is even ranking?
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    They are not even using meta tags!!!! I'm assuming it's some black hat technique but I can't figure it out. They are ranking for baby boutique pretty high on the first page!
     
  2. Carnagge

    Carnagge Registered Member

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    For me the page isn't working. Maybe they have a lot of BL.

    [edit] ok it's working. Meta tags in fact aren't so important and they don't have only keywords and description section.
     
  3. gypsydogg

    gypsydogg Regular Member

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    You have to replace the 0 (Zeros) with o(oh's...did I spell that right? lol) :D
     
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    Carnagge is right, meta tags barely (if they even do) put weight on search engine rankings. No description section simply means the webmaster wants the search engine to pull the description from the content of the site and the keywords meta tag was abused a long time ago so they don't even count it anymore (i think).
     
  5. gypsydogg

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    I realize the wieght bareley means anything, but their content isn't there either. For the keyword "b@by b0utique" it's only mentioned twice in the conent and once in the domain! I know the domain is huge but there are others with baby boutique in the domain as well. The competitors (including me) for keyword b@by b0utique have way better optimization, including, same domain name age, same pagerank, etc... They are using something.....
     
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    have you checked their backlinks?
     
  7. gypsydogg

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    No, does anybody know of a good way of checking that. Nobody seems to want to report an accurate number these days! Alexa shows 1 backlink. Other sites that are getting beat out are showing 77 backlinks! It makes 100% no optimization sense!
     
  8. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    one word: backlinks.

    Best tool to check them seo elite- but its paid.
    Best free tool? yahoo site explorer.
     
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    :D This post was kind of funny.. I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not but I should probably be polite and assume that this wasn't a joke post. *irony all in well meaning*

    One doesn't need any meta keyword or meta tags at all. And to rank well.. It's all about backlinks and to use targeted keywords in the anchor text.


    Best free tools? In the meaning of free I would say each and one of them... Just find the right warez forum, torrent tracker or what ever and you find all the good tools you need for free. Or continue posting some here and wait for Sesame's treasure room to open it's door ;)
     
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    how can we build quality backlink if we don hav much budget on it? other then posting link at forum, any other way?
     
  11. gypsydogg

    gypsydogg Regular Member

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    I got seo elite 4 from here, but need an email address or a crack, anybody got any ideas?
     
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    dvwilliams Newbie

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    http://seodigger.com/request.php?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cozybabyboutique.com%2F&base=google&step=50
     
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    Whatever they're outranking for, you could easily rank higher. The site seems light weight in terms of authority
     
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    gypsydogg Regular Member

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    That is my frustration, they are outranking me big time and there is no reason why they should be.
     
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    Is there a free site to check what are the keywords that my website is ranked for?
     
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    C0zybaby b0utique is out ranking many sites for the term b@by b0utique. We all have the keyword in our domains and we all have more sites linking in and at least the same page rank.
    I also beg to differ that meta keywords mean nothing, I , it is my understanding is that meta keywords have 0 wieght but they are used now for telling the serps what terms to wieght.

    c0zybabyb0utique.c0m AlexaRank: 2,678,327|Linking In: 7 Google Page Rank:3
    babylaundyb0utique.c0m AlexaRank: 799,174|Linking In: 106|Related Links Google Page Rank:4!
    My site - AlexaRank: 722,341|Linking In: 56 Google Page Rank:3

    So now that I have your attention...doesn't this look funny?
     
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    The alexa rank probably does not have an effect on how the same website would rank on google. But though could it be that the search return would be dependant which part of the world that you are searching from? For example I am from Singapore and I did a search on google for baby boutique and the top is a singapore website. (Yes I clicked the web button instead of search singapore button).
     
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    Yes, but that is not the case at all. I'm in California, my site is hosted in California, and C0zyB@byB0utique.com is hosted out of RUSSIA!!
     
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    gypsydogg, what Alexa shows would have nothing to do with SERPs, and Alexa #'s are horridly wrong most of the time.

    Checking the 2 URL's in your post with Alexa stuff, c0zybabyb0utique.c0m has 74 backlinks with Yahoo, 66 from other sites that look pretty good to me on first glance as far as being related.

    The other domain you gave, babylaundyb0utique.c0m doesn't even exist in Yahoo because the domain has dropped according to wh0is.sc so of course the first one is doing better in the SERPs

    Google doesn't give actual numbers on backlinks, but trust me that whatever Yahoo has found you can bet Google knows about, meaning it's a good bet the site you're mad at has well over 75 backlinks with Google too.

    Honestly, I'd say it's all in the backlinks that site has, including the anchor text being used in those links. On page optimization is cool, having a keyword rich domain is nice... but get several dozen authority backlinks and you can move any domain with almost any page of crap content up the SERPs
     
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    I guess my site which has 2490 inlinks according to Yahoo don't mean anything...