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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by xboxps3wow, Mar 1, 2010.

  1. xboxps3wow

    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    Ok, I was just wondering if you guys could help me out a little.
    So, this guy who is my competition, has less than 100 backlinks and most of them are from youtube accounts. He ranks 1st!!! I have over 5000 somewhat quality backlinks and im 4th. His site is pr2, mine is pr3, his site is alexa ranking 500k, mine is 300k... how is he out ranking me? What blackhat methods could he be using to achieve this?
    Any help is appreciated :)
     
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    nemernicu Junior Member

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    maybe his domain age is lower than yours ...
    try and do the same thing he does ... build backlinks from youtube ... double the amount he has and i'm sure u will outrank it.
    hope it help
     
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    premise911 Newbie

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    yeah check his domain age/created date on a site like cubestat.
    His domain is probably older than yours or his backlinks have more PR than yours. His links might be better quality in total. Or maybe he has links that haven't shown up yet... but I'll bet money it's just his domain age.
     
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    sakuragi1475 Registered Member

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    Maybe he has more unique and relevant content than you.
     
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    mastershake Newbie

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    I'm curious to do my own comparison, pm me a compare/contrast set of URL's?
     
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    does he have a keyword rich domain name?

    how is his onsite code compared to yours?

    how is the onsite seo on both sites?

    pm the urls ill be more than happy to review both
     
  7. xboxps3wow

    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    I would love for you guys to compare these 2 sites, but i REALLY don't want to give out my niche :)
    I guess it is the age of the site... because both of sites have keyword rich domain and both have quality content. Most of his backlinks are crap, however.
    Comparison:
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    jenniferarico Registered Member

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    Domain age,Keyword density must have an effect on it.Why don't you try to get backlink from youtube.It can work the same for you.
     
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    nathanooo2 Registered Member

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    Then why don't you try from youtube bro?Go and get it.
     
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    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    i have a couple youtube links... but those seem so silly. They have no PR value.
     
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    Google index pages? Why the stats doesn't show any for you and he has 10 already :confused:
     
  12. xboxps3wow

    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    It says 10 indexed images, not pages. + i have no idea why it says i have 0 indexed pages when i have over 170 indexed pages on google (site:http://mysite.com check)
     
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    You need to hit youtube. Who knows it could be he has better content or the people viewing his page are just doing more clicking.
     
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    How is your content? From where did you get it?
    PM me, If ill find some time, Ill analyze it.
     
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    xboxps3wow Power Member

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    ow really? do you want me to send you my CC info too? lol nice try
     
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    What do you mean by doing more clicking? What does clicking have to do with anything?
     
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    He has something you don't... other sources of traffic. His alexa rank hints at sustained and constant traffic. Where and how is he marketing? He is probably keyword stuffing too. I know numerous pr2-3 sites that outrank pr7-8 sites by keyword stuffing alone.

    Do with your site what this site does with "pink ribbon": hxxp: //www.pinkribbonshop.com/

    * Not my site... just a great example of how to rise up in the world by stuffing the shit out of some keywords. This site was number 1 for a long as time and now is number 2... The site that beats it has some interesting keyword stuffing patterns too!
     
  18. xboxps3wow

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    OMG, 44 keywords on that site!
    Btw, he doesn't seem to do anything, he hasn't gotten any backlinks in the past 2-3 months and he is still #1. His main source of traffic is google... No other traffic.
     
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    Sorry for bringing this old thread up again, but I still have this problem.. :( He is still ranking #1 and he got 0 links in the last 6 months. I've got many profile links from Youtube like he has, even promoted them and got backlinks. Added many more quality links to my site etc, however, he is still #1. He is not keyword stuffing either.
    Can anyone help?
     
  20. MisterGemini

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    Is it possible that he is building links to another domain and then 301 them to his primary domain? I think this would effectively keep you from being able to see his links.

    You might also want to consider the possibility he's paying for traffic from media buys and the like.