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How is this done???

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by supramanneke, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Hi,

    I was just checking my main competitor's behavior online, and I stumbled upon some strange backlinks of his, which I don't understand how he's getting them.

    It seems like he's putting quite an large text, rich in keywords, and every time with only ONE link to one of his pages, on different websites all over the place!
    I've been checking out all of these links, but I just can't figure out how he does it.

    So, I was hoping someone could help me out here, and maybe other people will be interested in knowing this trick.

    One of the url's where he has done this, is
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    [URL]http://n2musichd.com/category/uncategorized/[/URL]
    As you can see, there are quite a few people who have put some content there, which is clearly spun content. But, I think this trick is working perfectly for my competitor. So, what is he doing? And, is he using a program for this?

    Thanks! :)
     
  2. DarthM

    DarthM Regular Member

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    May be he posts in private blog networks.
     
  3. freepeeing

    freepeeing Junior Member

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    Some sort of article submission. either bot or manual

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  4. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Well, he's clearly using an automated program, because I can see that his posts are all the time a little bit different, and the text is hardly readable, gramatically completely wrong, and moreover, I'm sure he doesn't have the time to do all of this manually.
    So, how does it work, this article submission? Is there a program any one would recommend?
     
  5. SocialPusher

    SocialPusher Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I really think only darth is right here. This looks like a private blog network and he only has 1 link on every blog because that`s what they do: post 1 link on each of their blogs for every customer that buys their backlinks.
     
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    redrubies Supreme Member

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    The sites that I found the articles on were all listed with Godaddy and from India. Different owner names though, but that doesn't mean much. I admit that I did not check a lot of sites, but that's what I found for the sites that I did check. The sites probably all belong to the same person. My friend gave me something that he made that makes repetitive work very easy. I could post the same thing to many web pages and it didn't take long at all. I no longer have it because I lost everything when I had to restore the computer to factory settings. But it can be done.
     
  7. nikao

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    just a blog network... just sit back and wait for google to spank the network and your competitor will suffer :)
     
  8. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    http://pride-family.org/

    This is another site like that. All the articles are from different people.
    Basically, it looks like blog commenting, only here they use complete articles, and the links seem to stick.
    I don't even see how to post manually. I don't get it. How do they do this? I guess that's my main questions: how to post an article like that on these websites (there really are a lot I found like this! And my main competitor has the same spun content on all of these sites; I want mine there too! :) )
     
  9. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Oh really? Then it's not a good idea to get into this myself, right? Is there a way to speed up the "spanking process" then? :greddy2:
     
  10. crazedspyker

    crazedspyker Senior Member

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    As mentioned by others above, this is just a blog network post, old news. If I were you I wouldn't join any of the popular networks as google is laying the smack down on them right now. If you must, look for a smaller private network that's not as well known.

    For me, I'm steering clear from these links, too many sites slapped and I learned my lesson. (it also helped me discover the power of unique content backlinks :D)
     
  11. DarthM

    DarthM Regular Member

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    Then it looks like it's a crappy blog network that allows spun content. It's going to get slapped by Google sooner or later.
     
  12. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    So, basically, you're saying I better let my competitor do these tricks, because he's gonna get punished for it anyway? But, of course, in the meantime, he's advancing on me in the SERPS :(

    What's this unique content backlinks you're talking about? Web 2.0 , something like that?
     
  13. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Then I hope he's gonna get slapped soon, because he's taking my business away! :)
     
  14. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    In my opinion, blog networks don't get deindexed because of spun content, but because of footprints (tokens) and SEO hosting. Sites like this, that are owned by a company will be connected in one way or another and Google will find and deindex them eventually.
     
  15. crazedspyker

    crazedspyker Senior Member

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    Yes, pretty much any high PR site I can put unique content on. I'm building up my list of locations including high PR press release sites, article directories, web 2.0, edu wiki, document sites, etc.

    I found that 5-10 unique content back links (each backlink then receives a standard web 2.0 pyramid pointing to it and powered by lower quality links to the pyramid) on these high PR domains works pretty well for me. Of course I do other backlinking too like manual blog commenting on high PR *active* blogs and bookmarks to maintain a steady velocity.

    I recommend just doing what works for you, I've tried many different types of sites and linkbuilding strategies and different strategy work for different kinds of sites. Unique content backlinks seem to work great for "authority style" sites.

    Check out BigBuddy's premium link pyramid service in the BST

    It's a really great service and similar to what I do except I use any and all high PR properties (not just edu) and bigger pyramid structures.
     
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  16. DarthM

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    I believe they can detect spun content using n-grams if it's not done well enough. Have a look at seo20's informative thread on the subject: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...optimization-if-you-dont-read-understand.html
     
  17. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    After reading around on that post, a question occurred to me : does google use these n-grams (or any other methods for detecting spun content) in ALL languages? Or is this only done for English?
    If only in English, then I'm sure anyone can make really stupid sounding content in a different language, and get away with it all together, right?
     
  18. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Anyone that didn't realize Google uses words that are associated with other words hasn't been on the internet in a few years. They've been using this and LSI for at least 4 years.

    This is completely different than spinning however. With spun text, you'll have some related and some unrelated phrases, but that's common in normal human speech.
     
  19. gorillabob1

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    Looks like a private blog linking network (something like receivelinks or voltrank)
     
  20. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Well, from all this I learned that I should not go ahead and try to compete with this person on that same level.
    I will keep doing what I was doing already, and not care too much about these links he's getting.
    And, meanwhile I'll just hope he gets slapped by google as soon as possible ;)

    Thanks guys for all the info and tips!