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How in the Hell is this Person on page 1?? Makes me want to say FU SEO!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by txhepoker, Dec 14, 2010.

  1. txhepoker

    txhepoker Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    How in the Hell is this Person on page 1?? Makes me want to say FU SEO!

    I just got bumped from page 1.

    Comparisons

    Links
    Me = 2155 - Crazy PR
    Them = 61 - Only 1 link at pr2 all others ZERO = NOT A TYPO

    Directories
    Me = over 400
    Them = about 20

    Age of domain - Same at year 2008

    Keywords in domain name pertaining to our industry same.

    keyword density
    me = wordpress keyword rich
    them = splash page with a few keywords that leads to a flash site.

    HOW AND WTF IS GOING ON??????????
     
  2. mudbutt

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    there could be a lot of reasons why you got bumped (seemingly out of nowhere)

    this guy couldve massively been building links that arent showing up in your linkcheckers. alot of times my links dont show up for a while but my rankings keep on climbing.

    you are building links aggressively and they are getting picked up so you could be doing a tiny shuffle before knocking him back.

    if you posted the domain we could do a little more reverse engineering but i would say whats going on is either a fluke or the guy just purchased a huge xrumer blast and is shuffling. shuffling can go both ways after aggressive link building from my experience.
     
  3. AutoBlogger

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    check their backlinks IP. BL from 61 different IPs is worthy than many BLs from same or few IP.
     
  4. balric

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    What are you using to check backlinks? That will probably tell you why. If you are using google or yahoo anymore to check links you are wasting your time.
     
  5. balric

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    double post
     
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    Also check his backlinks to backlinks!
     
  7. Bostoncab

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    so what`s the best way to check competitors backlinks than?

    I always have seoquake running on my browsing.
     
  8. pdoods

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    How's the quality of your backlinks? How related are the backlinks to your niche?
     
  9. blight12

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    Either this:

    "this guy couldve massively been building links that arent showing up in your linkcheckers"

    Or he has built massive links to only a few buffer sites which link directly to him.
     
  10. allfreetodo

    allfreetodo Registered Member

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    could be several things

    one thing that is hard to track is how long people stay on his pages his bounce rates

    could also be a bot doing this for bounce rates

    stranger things have happened like empty pages ranking high how this happens gots me
     
  11. confined

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    create a google alert on his domain name in quotes and you will see where he is promoting.
     
  12. theqavish

    theqavish Regular Member

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    He might be using 2 tier or three tier backlinking
     
  13. dogdog

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    Big G usually won't show most of the backlinks. Which tool you use to check?
     
  14. txhepoker

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    other person's site
     
  15. TyphoonAgency

    TyphoonAgency Regular Member

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    Majestic is showing 414 backlinks from 56 IPs for this site. Is this your site or the other person's?
     
  16. mccullum

    mccullum Power Member

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    1.could have more link relevancy,
    2.could have built hell of a lot of profile links and they might not yet be showing up in site explorer,
    3.maybe your link building is not good.
    hope that helped.
     
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    if his site is super optimized, got tons of internal pages and 99% of your backlinks is on nofollow sites and his isn't that would make sense.
     
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  18. mudbutt

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    dude I could destroy this site in my sleep. you must be doing something wrong.
     
  19. cyrsss

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    Same sort of problem I was also facing I thought its just glitch but this post remind me so "an expert seo interviewer ask me site with 0 backlink is in top how is it possible ? I just answer him either he hide or backlink not index yet"? Is it possible guyz ?

    Guyz I also need to know any good free services to check backlinks.Well I know many other methods but i want to know any free good services for backlink check now a days exclude yahoo explore ?.