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How I went from fake PPD to real PPD - twist included!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Aatrox, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. Aatrox

    Aatrox Supreme Member

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    Hey ho.

    Don't really know where to post this, so I'll post here. Mods, move if you have to. Sorry.

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    1. PPD - what comes to mind?

    PPD - pay per download. Cleanfiles, Sharecash, Fileice... when I see PPD I always think: "alright, fake files!" And mostly that's true. I've done it, big chance you reading right now have probably done it and you may be doing it right now. I still am, but on a small scale.

    Yes, this is my primary source of money, but stay with me. When I do PPD nowadays, I avoid fake files and your usual "clash of clans hack tool online working 2016". No, I do something different and I actually provide the user what I promised. I still use fancy generators here and there that are fake and do nothing except look like they are doing something, but in the end, the user gets something of value. Now, you may say that you also provide something of value - a motherfucking PDF that helps NO ONE! Yeah, seen it many, MANY times when people say "umm yes, I do white hat. I give them a PDF file with hack." You are lying yourself. I bet that people like that just did a simple google search, copied some text and made a PDF out it and now they are white hat and so important. Ahhhh.

    No, I'm still talking about something real. You promised something to them, you give it to them. Simple.

    2. The real PPD

    Here is the catch. This is will limit your niches, your keywords and you may have more competition to beat, but you will provide a real thing. You are making a legitimate business. Some people create Amazon affiliate sites about coffee makers, you create about games and some ways to, you know, make it a bit easier.

    2.1 Flash games


    You can easily cheat in these games with http://www.cheatengine.org/. There is not much to explain about this. There is ton of games you can cheat this way. For example, I used to use this when I my girlfriend was stuck on a level of Candy fucking Crash Saga. There were some bombs that had timers and every time you make a move, timers counts down. There was a simple trick that allowed me to reset the timer after every move and change the amount of moves. I easily passed that level. Same thing you can use. There is ton of games that you can do that. Find the most popular on https://www.facebook.com/games/browse/top.

    2.2 The good stuff - codes, coupons, keys...

    Yeah, this is the fun part and where I'm most successful. What I do is I find a game where people can redeem coupons/codes and that way get something like resources and whatnot. With a quick search, I found a game that allows users to submit codes in order to get something else: http://www.gamerevolution.com/cheats/wizard101

    It's a game called Wizard101 and apparently you can enter codes to get resources in the game. As I managed to figure out just from reading the post on the link above, for redeeming codes, you can get wizard101 crowns. I guess that's the currency in the game. There you already have codes that YOU can use for your website. Now here comes the hard part. Your tasks is to go around, search for codes that are not that popular and try them out. If they work for you, they will work for everyone. Now, you got some codes that are not that that popular, great! Now you got a big incentive and people will complete your surveys!

    Look, these keywords have 2900 searches per month!

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    You can do the same things with keys - free beta keys, actually BUY a few of the keys for cheap on some sites like https://www.g2a.com/ or http://www.g2play.net/
    Also, you can do this with Antivirus software. That works good. I love ESET NOD32 to death and beyond, they do an AMAZING job at protecting my computer, but holy shit they suck at securing their own software. I don't know if that's on purpose, is that a marketing trick of what the hell is going on, but you can find millions of FREE serial keys for their software that work.

    3. The twist that generates even more money

    You found some games, you got some codes, you ranked your sites. Awesome stuff man, congrats! Here are the twists. People are really, and I mean REALLY creative with these fake generators. Check this guy out - recent activity, fake FB comments...

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    Now, for real, here is the twist. You got some great codes for a game to redeem? Awesome! Make a generator, get it coded if you don't know how, and make it so it "generates" (I mean it gives out) a RANDOM ONE code out of your list/database of codes. If you have really nice codes, users on your site will complete MULTIPLE surveys just to get some more codes from you! This works wonders, at least in my case. People complete 2-3-4 surveys to get more because they know you got some really good stuff. Once they tried it, they can't get enough and they are hooked. Let that money roll in baby!

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    4. Why provide real when you can still fake it and make good money?

    Few reasons:
    • you are not HURTING the whole CPA business by providing fake stuff (reverse leads, more complicated surveys, advertisers pulling out, strict rules by CPA/PPD companies...)
    • NO MORE FAKING - AWWWW YISSS! - no more fake videos, fake proofs, no more fake comments - you can pump REAL videos, people will leave REAL comments, people will want MORE (more usually means $$$$)
    • you can sleep like a baby knowing that you're doing something better, you're growing

    I hope this does it for you. This is basically how I stayed in the CPA/PPD business, but evolved.
    It makes me sick when I read other PPD/CPA forums and they all say how they give PDF files and stuff like that, I saw some of the examples, cmon. Those are not helping ANYONE except the guy who provides it. They think they are providing something of value, but they are not fooling anyone with that. Hope this helps someone!
     
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  2. soulcollector

    soulcollector Senior Member

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    I've tried to tell people for years that doing shady black hat dies out because offending people's mentality for a quick buck never works. The real secret is gaining and keeping their trust, so they in return keep making you good money.
     
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  3. patomica

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    real content = real value = more $$$
     
  4. freedomcocaine

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    Great work man! I really don't get why people try to scam. First of all the customer is going to remember the scam (no repeat business) and second, they probobly will tell their friends/other gamers about the scam (even less repeat business).

    I mean it does not take that much effort to actually provide something but the benefits are huge. And thanks to the scammers it's only getting harder to sell anything online.
     
  5. Bling Bling

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    Great share!

    You do SEO only, or you promote on social media too?
     
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    Got some really good ideas bouncing off my head after going through your guide.
     
  7. itsmeadityas

    itsmeadityas Newbie

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    Traffic source? How to get traffic for these kind of things
     
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    Nice twist, need to give this a try.
     
  9. Aatrox

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    Thanks! Yes, SEO mostly. Not much social media for me.

    You said you would like to read this guide if I wrote it so I did. Glad I got you going :)

    Search engines are the best traffic source for me.

    Nothing complicated, but it works wonders :)
     
  10. ChanzGrande

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    Love the guide and your experience.

    I certainly understand your position whereas you feel that what you provide is somehow more valuable than what might be contained in an ebook. One has to consider that value is in the eyes of the recipient of items however they are acquired. I'm sure to MANY people you are correct. I just think it's overly generalized to assume an ebook has no value. I've read plenty that do, and written many myself.

    To some gem generators may be a real gem - to others the right ebook may become their bible.

    For me though about this thread the only thing that matters is I'm glad for your success and I hope others share it by modeling your approach.

    It's always great to see marketers evolve. Turn a blackhat project into a whitehat dream. Way to go!
     
  11. Aatrox

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    Ye, ye, ye! Sorry! I was writing this late last night and thought I wrote it, but I guess I didn't. I mean, most of the times people just copy first piece of text that they see and put it in a PDF and that's it. I know people are lazy to do proper research and then this happens.

    Anyways, thanks. It's good to turn something bad into something good :)
     
  12. lpfacun

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    Hello OP, I wanna try content locking real content, can you pm some niches please! :D
     
  13. Aatrox

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    You already have one in the thread! :(
     
  14. thagar

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    I really like what you doing here.. I have tried fake downloads and because I primarily use youtube traffic it never really worked for me... Now this,, I could make this work!
     
  15. StanMan

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    I complete agree with you. A lot of BHW methods are based on the assumption that you need hack/cheat/fraud someone to get money. If people would focus on actually providing value to the consumer, I think we would have more success stories and even a better world lol.

    Really cool to see that even in the most darkest BHW methods there are people, who are willing to bring value on the table.
    VALUE = MONEY

    Btw, when you mentioned "cheat engine", I smiled well to much. I remember using it with most of the online games I played when I was 16. lol

    Good luck with your business, mate
     
  16. SEO1337

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    Really like the method. Some sites don't accept fake niches, so this will really help those who can't think of anything.

    Really love the twist and the example niche you gave. Great share, OP!
     
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    Very well written OP but fake niche is becoming more and more challenging those days on PPD. got some twisting idea from your thread
     
  18. Aatrox

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    I know. Lots of people still doing fake, hopefully this will give some people ideas as you guys already wrote that it did. So, at least this is something :)
     
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    Very true that we're diluting our future consumer base - since people are already discounting surveys and don't want to do them since they've been burned before.

    If we want to keep CPA alive, we have to start using it through legitimate ways in order to balance all the fake CPA stuff.

    It's not about doing good, it's about in order to protect future profits - you have to invest in building trust today.
     
  20. uristjack

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    This is great!

    Remember people, it's all about the long con.
    And trust/friendship is the ULTIMATE long con:D