Ignatius_Reilly
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- Mar 11, 2020
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I started -by chance- in late 2016 in online businesses. The first thing I tried -also by chance- was CPA, specifically dating offers for Spain (I'm from there). It's a very long story that would deserve its own thread, seriously it has all the elements of a movie (misery, rise, betrayals, enmities...), but in this thread I want to focus on the technical part.
Basically, I started spamming ES dating offers on the legendary IRC, on Spanish servers. I used link shorteners and the URL of the offer, just like that. I got the offers from some crappy CPA networks (the only ones that allowed me to register).
By doing that, I was able to see my first conversions. I don't remember exact figures, but maybe between 1-3 conversions per day. I want to emphasize this specific point because I've seen some recent threads here from people who are conducting experiments and are seeing similar results (a few conversions per day), and the question that needs to be asked at that moment is: Is this scalable?
In short, later on, I automated the process. Previously, I used to manually write/respond to private messages, the classic method of the ewhore. Later on, I also set up variations of the bots, some would respond to private messages, others would send them, write in the general chat every x minutes, etc.
I don't have programming knowledge beyond modifying an HTML of a landing page or something like that (and back then, not even that). I spent quite some time searching for code snippets here and there until I put together something somewhat functional, then polished it over time. I say this because if I could do it, anyone can, you just have to dedicate time to it.
I used to have 5-6 laptops connected 24/7 with several bots on each one. Back then, I didn't know what a virtual machine was.
- The bot
NOTE: The bot is in the mIRC language, meaning this code snippet would go in the mIRC program, specifically in the "remote" tab. You can download the latest version from its official website.
This would be an example of a bot that responds to private messages. It's configured to respond at 10 and 12 seconds with the first and second message:
Additionally, this code snippet should be added to the "aliases" tab:
This code snippet also should be added to options>perform
The last two snippets are for closing private messages every minute. One of the first things I had to fix was this, because when my bots had been connected for a while, they would crash due to the number of open private messages. These two snippets solve the problem.
Variations can be made to the code, as I mentioned before. For example, changing:
To:
By changing that command, the bot will send private messages to everyone who enters the channel(s) where our bot is.
Another thing I always did whenever I installed a new bot was to include all moderators in the ignore list so that my bot wouldn't respond to them if any of them wrote to me. This has to be done one by one, using the command /ignore name or by clicking on the name and selecting "ignore".
IMPORTANT: Make sure to uncheck all tabs in the Options -> IRC -> Logging section so that the bot does NOT save conversation logs. I broke a couple of laptops until I realized they were crashing because of this reason.
- Some considerations to take into account
The most important thing to note is that this method is OBSOLETE. It's not functional today for multiple reasons. When I started, there were hardly any bans or people doing it. Bans were rare (as long as you were discreet and didn't abuse), and they were IP bans. Nowadays, they have really good anti-spam filters, at least on the servers where I used to spam. I'm talking about IP bans, domain bans, automatic shadowbans, word filters (register, mature, dating, etc.). In the final days, I remember having to rotate IPs/domains daily, change 0s to zeros, change the font of the texts... and even then it wasn't viable.
I've posted this because obviously I'm never going to use it again, and maybe someone can give it their own twist and make something functional and profitable out of it. The servers where I used to spam are heavily protected against spam, so if anyone wants to experiment, I don't recommend approaching any Spanish servers.
In its prime, my bot network was able to generate around 200-250€ per day for me. The quality of my leads was decent, despite being chat traffic. As a point of reference, I charged (for this specific type of traffic) 2.5€ per lead for ES. I also diverted some traffic to revenue share offers for a while, and the results were good.
My only expenses were some second-hand shitty laptops (a few thousand?) and a monthly VPN subscription (10$). Back then, commercial VPNs were allowed, but nowadays servers have filters that make it impossible.
From very early on, I began improving everything, in the sense that I quickly learned what a landing page, a tracker, a custom domain, etc., were. Additionally, I quickly jumped from the crappy networks I started with to more serious ones. That combination of things is what really allowed me to reach up to 250/day, not just my bots themselves.
Advertisers/networks are allergic to chat traffic, but if you manage to hide the source of your traffic (double meta refresh, etc) from them for a while and the quality is good, by the time they realize where the traffic is coming from, they usually don't mind because it's converting well for them. Practically ALL the advertisers I worked with knew the source of my traffic, meaning it was something agreed upon.
Basically, I started spamming ES dating offers on the legendary IRC, on Spanish servers. I used link shorteners and the URL of the offer, just like that. I got the offers from some crappy CPA networks (the only ones that allowed me to register).
By doing that, I was able to see my first conversions. I don't remember exact figures, but maybe between 1-3 conversions per day. I want to emphasize this specific point because I've seen some recent threads here from people who are conducting experiments and are seeing similar results (a few conversions per day), and the question that needs to be asked at that moment is: Is this scalable?
In short, later on, I automated the process. Previously, I used to manually write/respond to private messages, the classic method of the ewhore. Later on, I also set up variations of the bots, some would respond to private messages, others would send them, write in the general chat every x minutes, etc.
I don't have programming knowledge beyond modifying an HTML of a landing page or something like that (and back then, not even that). I spent quite some time searching for code snippets here and there until I put together something somewhat functional, then polished it over time. I say this because if I could do it, anyone can, you just have to dedicate time to it.
I used to have 5-6 laptops connected 24/7 with several bots on each one. Back then, I didn't know what a virtual machine was.
- The bot
NOTE: The bot is in the mIRC language, meaning this code snippet would go in the mIRC program, specifically in the "remote" tab. You can download the latest version from its official website.
This would be an example of a bot that responds to private messages. It's configured to respond at 10 and 12 seconds with the first and second message:
Code:
On *:open:?:*:{
/timer 1 10 msg $nick Married women in your area are seeking discreet encounters
/timer 1 12 msg $nick ✅ WWW.EJEMPLO.COM ✅Additionally, this code snippet should be added to the "aliases" tab:
Code:
/F4 /Close -cm $1This code snippet also should be added to options>perform
Code:
/timer1 999999999999999999999999999 60 /F4The last two snippets are for closing private messages every minute. One of the first things I had to fix was this, because when my bots had been connected for a while, they would crash due to the number of open private messages. These two snippets solve the problem.
Variations can be made to the code, as I mentioned before. For example, changing:
Code:
On *:open:?:*:{To:
Code:
On *:Join:*:{By changing that command, the bot will send private messages to everyone who enters the channel(s) where our bot is.
Another thing I always did whenever I installed a new bot was to include all moderators in the ignore list so that my bot wouldn't respond to them if any of them wrote to me. This has to be done one by one, using the command /ignore name or by clicking on the name and selecting "ignore".
IMPORTANT: Make sure to uncheck all tabs in the Options -> IRC -> Logging section so that the bot does NOT save conversation logs. I broke a couple of laptops until I realized they were crashing because of this reason.
- Some considerations to take into account
The most important thing to note is that this method is OBSOLETE. It's not functional today for multiple reasons. When I started, there were hardly any bans or people doing it. Bans were rare (as long as you were discreet and didn't abuse), and they were IP bans. Nowadays, they have really good anti-spam filters, at least on the servers where I used to spam. I'm talking about IP bans, domain bans, automatic shadowbans, word filters (register, mature, dating, etc.). In the final days, I remember having to rotate IPs/domains daily, change 0s to zeros, change the font of the texts... and even then it wasn't viable.
I've posted this because obviously I'm never going to use it again, and maybe someone can give it their own twist and make something functional and profitable out of it. The servers where I used to spam are heavily protected against spam, so if anyone wants to experiment, I don't recommend approaching any Spanish servers.
In its prime, my bot network was able to generate around 200-250€ per day for me. The quality of my leads was decent, despite being chat traffic. As a point of reference, I charged (for this specific type of traffic) 2.5€ per lead for ES. I also diverted some traffic to revenue share offers for a while, and the results were good.
My only expenses were some second-hand shitty laptops (a few thousand?) and a monthly VPN subscription (10$). Back then, commercial VPNs were allowed, but nowadays servers have filters that make it impossible.
From very early on, I began improving everything, in the sense that I quickly learned what a landing page, a tracker, a custom domain, etc., were. Additionally, I quickly jumped from the crappy networks I started with to more serious ones. That combination of things is what really allowed me to reach up to 250/day, not just my bots themselves.
Advertisers/networks are allergic to chat traffic, but if you manage to hide the source of your traffic (double meta refresh, etc) from them for a while and the quality is good, by the time they realize where the traffic is coming from, they usually don't mind because it's converting well for them. Practically ALL the advertisers I worked with knew the source of my traffic, meaning it was something agreed upon.
