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How I made $212 with 50 minutes of work

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  1. webhosting

    webhosting Regular Member

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    Hello fellow Blackhatters:

    I thought it was about time to give back to BHW. I've used the forum for some time and have picked up some really good tips from many members. So here's my thanks to you guys!

    How I made some quick cash:

    Here's what I did to make around $212. I was able to obtain 2nd row tickets for Train awhile back. In this post, I'm going to show you how to better your odds on getting tickets near the front of any venue. Keep in mind this is not fool proof and varies a little between venues and acts. You don't have to have multiple proxy IPs or anything sketchy here to make a little extra cash.

    1) First of all, I read through different ticket websites and see what is coming on sale soon.
    2) I find a venue where there are a lot of people i.e. New York, Miami, Cincinnati etc.
    3) I look through various sites seeking out "presale codes" (presale codes are given out by the artist for an event so that you can buy tickets a day or two before they go on sale to the general public.)
    4) Most concerts go on sale around 10AM local time here in the states. I usually try to target 1 concert at a time.
    5) This step is probably the most crucial to getting front row tickets or something similar. Many people seem to think that you must be ready at 10AM on the dot to get the best tickets. This couldn't be further from the truth. I've noticed over the years that Ticketmaster and Livenation usually release the middle part of the venue first, followed by the Lawn and other nose bleed seats. Usually, most people give up after 10-15 minutes. If you stick in there for about 45 minutes or more and continue to pull for tickets over and over and over, you'll eventually start seeing very good seats. This is from personal experience. Sometimes the front row tickets aren't released until a week or later after the concert goes on sale. This is more rare, but sometimes does occur.

    Now, keep in mind that you can only buy about 4-8 tickets for any given venue. Don't think that you're going to be able to buy every seat near the front.

    6) How did I make money? Once I bought the tickets, I listed them on StubHub or eBay. I like Stubhub better as you only pay 15% in commission and your payment can be directly sent to your PayPal account without fees attached. Plus StubHub pays for shipping via Fedex. The reason I chose them over Ticketsnow or TicketNetwork is due to the larger audience and the ability to list your tickets in PDF (Ticketfast). Ticketfast are tickets that can be downloaded instantly from Ticketmaster and Livenation after purchase.
    7) I thought you said you made this in 50 minutes? That's right, this only took 50 minutes of work. Once the tickets are on StubHub, it can take a few days or weeks to sell depending on your price. Even if it takes a month, you only have 50 minutes of time or so invested along with the ticket purchase price. You can even set StubHub to automatically adjust the price over time.

    I hope this is useful! Get out there and make some money!
     
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  2. lanbo

    lanbo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You got tickets at 10:45am? Aren't there bots who swipe them up within a few minutes..?
     
  3. webhosting

    webhosting Regular Member

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    There are definitely bots out there, but Ticketmaster and Livenation usually don't release near front tickets until about 45 minutes after they go on sale via presale. I've consistently had this work for me. Again, it's a little different between concerts.
     
  4. Tsmash

    Tsmash Regular Member

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    I'm about to bank off of Justin Bieber tickets. The tour dates were just released today and I had early access to tickets. I've got them stocked and ready to go.
     
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    webhosting Regular Member

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    Yeah, that was a hot commodity today! Nice to see your making some cash.
     
  6. blackhat777

    blackhat777 Elite Member

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    What if you don't find any buyers?
     
  7. webhosting

    webhosting Regular Member

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    That is a risk you have to bear in mind. Don't buy tickets unless you feel certain they will sell. That judgement you will learn over time. I will tell you that this has only happened a couple of times to me. I tend to lower prices and get something out of them if it's getting within 48 hours of the event. You'll make something back.
     
  8. webhosting

    webhosting Regular Member

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    I might also add that if you are looking for presale codes for events, be sure to look on the artists website. Usually there are fan clubs that can be joined. There is also a site called:
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    presalepasswordinfo.com
    I think I paid $10 for an entire year there. They give out presale codes for events there. I'm not affiliated with the site, I've just used them over the years.
     
  9. webhosting

    webhosting Regular Member

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    For those of you who have taken a genuine interest, make sure to try to get a hold of Justin Bieber tickets. Those are big money makers! Can't go wrong!
     
  10. Tsmash

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    Yeah, it would make you sick if you knew how much my brother and I have made off of bieber tickets this week.
     
  11. honourinspirit

    honourinspirit Newbie

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    that was cool mate.
     
  12. won_1983

    won_1983 Junior Member

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    Great Nice to share your method to us
     
  13. EmpireQuality

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    awesome method. i am definitely interested in focusing on this type of business, just need enough money to buy the tickets in the beginning :) can't go wrong with flipping a valuable product for a good amount of quick cash!
     
  14. webhosting

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    Haha, I'm sure man. Those tickets have an incredible mark up. People will pay just about anything to see that kid.
     
  15. webhosting

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    When I first started, I just took what little money I had and kept turning it over and over and over until I had a few thousand dollars put back. Might take some time at first, but definitely has a good return in the long run.
     
  16. knall

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    Looking at some Bieber tickets right now. I can still get upper level in most places with Amex. Think I could still make a couple bucks on reselling them?
     
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    You might want to see if any of the venues are sold out for him. If not, I wouldn't recommend it. If many are sold out, it may be worth looking into. I'm sure you could make something off of them, but probably nothing huge.
     
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  18. knall

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    The tickets aren't technically open for sale to the public yet. This is a presale for Amex members. Maybe I'll try again when they go up for sale in a few days.
     
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    What date is it? I'm pretty sure most, if not all, have already had a presale through the fan club. Let me know and I'll take a look for you.
     
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