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How I made $20,000 in 3 months and can I do it again. [Method] [Journey]

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  1. kingsare2

    kingsare2 Junior Member

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    I've been on BHW for somewhat over 2 years now and all I've done for the most part is ask for things, well it's my turn to finally give back. This forum has done so much for me, it taught me how to become a better IMer and how to think outside of the box. Now it's time for me to give back so I figured I'd tell you How I made $20,000 in 3 months.

    Intro
    In 2011 I was working on Wall St. as an executive assistant. I ran my own internship program and managed to get some investors to put money into my websites, but I wasn't making the kind of money that I wanted to make. One day while getting a haircut I had an epiphany. I realize that my barber (and also good friend) has never been broke since I've known him. The reason why he was never broke was because he offered a service and he was good at it. No matter how shitty the economy was he always had a revenue stream. If he invested in him self he could scale up, rent out a chair to another barber and eventually own his own place. Now that I think about it my whole life I've known barbers and they've all been entrepreneurs. Okay let's not get side tracked here.

    After that epiphany I started thinking, what kind of service can I offer to people? I remember reading in a book somewhere that you'd probably be making money at something that people always come to you for so I started to analyze the people around me and how they interacted with me. I eventually came to the conclusion that I was some sort of a 'taste maker'. I had an earlier career as a club promoter (I was promoting night clubs at 14, showing up in limos. I wasn't rich I just had my ways.) until eventually I hosted my own events, I was in the music industry, the film industry, and I was the internet guy. I did mention that I worked on Wall St. right? Yeah, well they also made me the money guy. I'm the guy that people come to when they want attention and appearance.

    So it hit me. I was going to create a consulting firm for musicians, clubs, restaurants etc. There was one problem, I didn't actually know what it was that I was doing. I couldn't define it nor could I package it. Sure in their world I was some sort of a tech genius but to the BHW I was a noob with a bunch of shitty followers on Twitter. This didn't stop me from diving right in though, I took a $4,000 loan from some of my peeps at Wall St. at no interest and was on my way.

    Point of No Return
    It was January 2012. This is where shit hit the fan. I was actually supposed to start with $6,000 but one of my lenders was going through a divorce and eventually couldn't access his funds, at the same time I was living at home and my mother was clipping me for rent. The money I had was supposed to pay for travels, lunch, and everything else during my time of research. Long story search it wasn't long before I was back at $0 with no clients or even an idea as to what the hell it was I was going to do.

    After doing a crap load of research I decided to capitalize on social media and social bookmarking. I created a micro-budget platform where my clients only had to pay $60 a month for services. The idea was that I'd have so many clients that it ultimately wouldn't matter how much they were paying. This idea wasn't a terrible idea but I would later learn that my approach needed a lot of work.

    Method
    The first thing I did was build leads. I wanted to land between 10 - 100 clients so I made a list of 1,000 musicians in my area NYC. That took me 3 days I think. After that I started contacting all of them. This is where I realized I had an issue. In the Wall St. world we had list of leads that you went down and you called. It was sweet, instant access to the person that you need. I would make 700 calls a day easy, no exaggeration. If they were really targeted leads I made a lot less because of lengthy conversations. The issue with these leads is that a lot of them were e-mails and social media. Not everyone is super punctual when it comes to the internet (if they were I'd have no business). To clarify, I just received an e-mail response 4 months ago to an e-mail I sent 12 months ago.

    As to how I built the leads I would contact venues and get lists of past performers names, most of the time it was published online. If I did it again I would get all of their phone numbers!

    Success
    I received my first group of interested candidates. Some of them were too broke for $60 which angered me and some of them weren't too happy that I didn't have a clear idea of what it was I was going to offer them (I think they were broke too). I had this one client that was A+ though. She responded back ASAP. They always told me on Wall St. that every 10 people you meet that jerk you around you'll get 1 person that just gets it. It's a numbers game. So I had my first client, great right? NO! At the end of the day I was only making $60 a month off of her and scaling was going to be difficult since I had no money/tools to work with. If I did it again I would have signed a 12 month contract with her which would have been $720, and attached a termination fee if that's possible. That way when I finally got to 100 clients it would be like I made $72,000 that year. That my friends is what credit cards are for. lol I worked with her for 2 months and couldn't figure out what I could give to her to make her stay besides fake followers from Fiverr.com. The funny thing is I told her that's exactly what I wouldn't do.

    I also learned on Wall St. that you should take things one client at a time because referrals are huge. I ignored that at first but then I applied it. My one client left me and I was confused. I gave her my time and I did all that I could for $60 a month and she left (if I did it again I would have hit up some peeps on ODesk. But remember all I had was that $60 and I needed to eat. lol) One day she e-mails me and tells me that she has some rich dude for Dubai (I'm withholding information) that want's my services. You would think I'd be happy but I wanted to die. GREAT! I have a millionaire that wants my services that cost $60 a month, I fucked up big time. Well my client was awesome (and also wanted money) so she kept my pricing secret and marked him up. Long story short we made $10,000 of the guy in a few months. All I had to do was buy him followers. I was attempting to create an actual following for him but he just wanted the numbers is what ridiculous. I'm not in this industry to buy people followers or to follow and unfollow people.

    I also made another $10,000 off a guy that I worked with that also sent me on a trip a few months ago but that story isn't as important as the one I just told.


    Where Am I Now?
    I still keep in contact with her and my other client. My buzz is now bigger than ever as I've done some videos with some big YouTubers and have started to dominate Reddit. I'm also developing a channel with YouTube. But don't get me wrong, I'm fucking broke. I want residual income. I have a new client that pays well, I do a lot of foot work for him though. We shoot videos and I edit them and promote them, he'll be on a reality series soon.

    What Do I Need?
    I need people that can get things done. I have the clients but I need to be able to able to give them something real. Maybe it doesn't have to be definable, I'm okay with just calling myself a consultant, but it must be consistent.

    Also, I'm really not sure on what I should charge people. I was thinking maybe I should just let people decide what is okay for them to charge me and I just work around that.

    Thanks for reading. What are you opinions on my journey? What are your suggestions?
    Please leave your comments below and I'll get back to them ASAP. I can also show evidence of the first $10,000 made as the other $10,000 was in checks and not PayPal. That's a big reason why I didn't go into the other half.

    Also if you feel I need to clarify on something just let me know.
     
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  2. xstyle

    xstyle Power Member

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    Cool journey. So you plan to re-sell twiter followers?

    I don't know why you are still broke after all this kind of money because you should at least save something :)
     
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  3. skinnyboi

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    Nice post man
     
  4. mrsix

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    If you need help with anything I'd be happy to contribute to the people you need.
     
  5. kingsare2

    kingsare2 Junior Member

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    Well I want to offer something real. When you are a person that has a lot of connection you eventually realize that you can do whatever you please. I don't want to to sell fake followers, I want to give my clients real ways to get real followers. IDK what the price is. One of my bigger problems is that it usually costs an additional fee. So if my clients pays me 500 a month to build a following, that isn't really a large amount to build a legitimate following. Sure I have MY methods, but if you went the text book route you'll need more money. Even with my method, there will be times that you need more cash.

    I just want to find something that is solid like a cellphone contract.

    Thank you. i would gladly post more, if people like this stuff. I have a lot to share.

    Okay PM me with the things you can do.
     
  6. Nice job. Keep it up.


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  7. theblack

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    Great journey.
    Please keep posted.
    :chatting:
     
  8. IamNRE

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    Sounds like you need some advice on where to take your business and what service of value you can give your clients (that they NEED - maybe it's just twitter followers, but what if they find out about fiverr..eeek).

    Go talk to a business advisor, talk to the competition ..... most of them would be happy give some pointers to someone starting out in the industry.
     
  9. Reyone

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    Let me get this straight.

    When I came to read this thread and I was like wall st blablabla, I was rather excited. I thought it would be a massive success story about some exciting and complex stuff, playing with data, placing ads, making deals constantly and so on.

    Unfortunately, to my disappointment, it turns out that you actually haven't achieved shit, have you? I mean, your client, was kind enough to hook you up with the rich dude from Dubai, am I right? In my race (humans) we call that *kind *luck *angel, and don't get me wrong, I am well happy for your earnings.
    But when we talk about success, we usually talk about a goal which was achieved through work. I mean, if my goal is to achieve $1m/year and I happen to win the lottery, I would have technically achieved it, however, to my own understanding, I would not consider it a success story.

    Well, yes, you succeeded, but I am not entirely sure as to how you are going to repeat this;
    To my eyes, this is call a lucky strike...

    In either case, im happy for your earnings and I hope you can increase them in the coming months, however, I would advice to start getting your own leads rather than expecting rich leads to fall from the sky.

    Best of luck!
     
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  10. RushingWind

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    Seriously? Nice post??? That's all you have to say?
     
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    Interesting journey, just make sure the Dubai guy stays with you as a client..
     
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    I think your approach is wrong. Musicians have all kind of needs, from online exposure to offline promotion, but for that you need big cash. If ur good to what are u doin, i suggest to open a music label, make a plan (how can i help these people, what to offer), search for DJ's in ur area and get to work. Dj's are very easy to promote, if they see that yo send 100k vies to a track, they feel like "wow im a star". Just choose a style, like house music, tech house and start to find hungry dj's.

    Of course there is a lot more work, you need a smashing website, channels for promotions (clubs, radios, online), once a month create an event a lot more. BUT start with small dj's that have potential and build ur business.

    Good luck.
     
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    Dude I've been thinking of doing the same thing...being a struggling musician and such it would've been nice if someone could've helped me get my name out there. MOST musicians are horrible at networking and marketing!
     
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    In my opinion I don't call this luck. The thing is that he took action and did much more for $60 than many of us wouldn't.

    It seems this actions payed of in the end and this is the way to go. Just build relations and trust with all the clients and some of them will bring referrals for sure.

    Keep it going this way and you will be more than satisfied. Do not forget to bring value to the client's business and he will be yours for life.

    Cheers!
     
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  15. premvb6

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    Congrats mate... save some of that 20k and invest the remaining in building a empire that gets u passive income.
     
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  16. test123test

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    cant believe i read all this bs.
     
  17. S E O

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    Thats good bro good share !
     
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    but if he did not sweat his balls to get that girl to use his service(all the cold calling) , he would not get that Dubai connection,
    he just got to scale things up, than he will find more of those refferals
     
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  19. kingsare2

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    Thanks buddy I will.

    Thanks, I will update as much as humanly possible.

    Yes you are right, I do need that advice. I tell all of my clients about Fiverr from the start and I tell them about all the nightmares it can cost. I send them over documents about how Mitt Romney lost a lot of his heat because people found out he was purchasing twitter followers. The reason they want to work with me is because they are getting something tangible?

    Living in NYC I first thought that people would be super competitive and wouldn't want to share info (maybe because so BHW like withhold info lol) but after working with a website that gets 1,000,000 uniques a month I learned that many people are willing to give info away to people they trust.

    Dude... no. this isn't about luck. This is about how the Wall St. guys told me to focus on one client and referrals. I thought it was BS too but it worked. Don't forget that I built my own leads. Now that I got that out of the way, I worked on Wall St. for 2 years. I did so much crazy shit there and I'm willing to share. I've spoken to several millionaires and if you read closely I got people to invest into my websites. Seriously? You don't think that's success? Did you read the whole post? I'm willing to share soooo much info. lol

    Thanks buddy haha I do appreciate that he said something positive but I wish he'd say a little more. He's probably busy doing some IM. :)

    I can still get him as a client, that's another reason I did this post. How do I keep him? I need something explosive for him to want to keep investing.

    Well there's a lot more to my story. Pretty much every weekend every musician and DJ in my area invite me to there events. They try to show off to me, buy me bottles, hotel rooms, etc. to get into my good graces so I can send some love their way.

    Like I said, I have the clients. I know promo. I need something that I can really offer them. Fake views and followers aren't going to do it for the tech savvy clients. I need to offer them things they cannot do on their own you know? I also want it to be something that can operate on it's own.

    But I do like the way you're brain is brewing and you are staring me in the right direction.

    EXACTLY. I'm a musician and that's why I started this business. I know kids that tour, shoot videos and have been featured on the news her in NYC and still don't have much of a buzz.

    Thank you! That was the point that I was making in the end. I had his attitude in the beginning and it got me nothing. I changed my attitude and it got me something. I will keep that in mind!

    Thanks?


    Thank I don't have it all. I burned it on buying programs, paying rent, petty cash, etc. But I'm still building that empire regardless. I started from $0 before and I will do it again.

    Dude wtf? What do you want? Personally I think this is better than some CPA story you heard 300 times. Or some method that you can learn that will get you burned 6 months down the road that results in hordes of noobs asking for a bot or some sort of a cracked version.

    There's nothing from this that you can take? You have no questions? What would you have wanted me to say? Did you want a spoonfeed of some sort?

    Thanks man, I really appreciate that.

    Thank you sir! I should mention that she knows a few celebrities that are currently active in television that would like to work with me.
     
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    1k views and 19 replies? i can imagen 60-70% are not even aware, but obviously there is a lot that you are holding out on.
    And that's ok i guess, it got me interrested and curious for sure.
    Getting that 1 client and earn 10k off of him was a brilliant move! quality over quantity as you said, that goes for paychecks as well!

    I can see that the position you are in feels uncomfortable for you, but you have to keep up this pace, and trust that everything will fall in place.
    For actual advice, i'm willing to help you with that, but to be honest i would need a bit more information first, so i can really try to be of any assistence.

    I have some ideas for you as well

    look at those threads about other people re-selling stuff from fiverr and free lancers, and even BHW itself for example, there are many online service that you can easily get your hand to (and outsource) to make some sort of "start up and get online pressence package" for any new and upcomging artis or DJ. And that's even basic thinking, but good for starters maybe.
    And for whatever skills you have, online as well as offline, just add them with it for now.

    well gratz so far, and good luck. i'm curious to know more
     
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