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How I Killed My Site's Rankings

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by hardinflash, Nov 17, 2012.

  1. hardinflash

    hardinflash Regular Member

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    I'm not going to tell you the site because I'm working on getting it going again but just for some info on what you might not want to do here's a little information on how I made my life a little more difficult for myself.

    This site was ranking on the first page for quite a few terms before I did this.

    I had never purchased domains for the sole purpose of redirecting them before & I found a domain that was expired with thousands of links to it so I figured I would just buy it to see if I could get some traffic, what's $10 for a few targetted visitors right? Everything I had read told me that google doesn't give a darn about expired domains & that the links aren't valued.

    Well this domain I purchased had a ton of crappy blog comment & forum links to it and about a week or so after I redirected it using 301 my site dropped off the grid from Google, sad. Everything I had done before that had been just slow & steady link building. I also did this with the Google updates that happened in sept & october but everything was compliant before that so I'm 99% sure that it was redirecting that expired domain that did it to me.

    I could be wrong but if I choose to do that in the future I will be using a different redirect method than 301 & that would be my advice to anyone else as well.
     
  2. Rua999

    Rua999 Power Member

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    Maybe the site you redirected had been deindexed from G?

    Do you expect your site to bounce back after you remove the redirect as well?
     
  3. Eagle Eye

    Eagle Eye Senior Member

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    maybe its just dancing.how long has it been since you did the 301 redirect?
     
  4. the-kashish

    the-kashish Junior Member

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    Yeah dog.
    Gotta always do a proper background check of a domain before buying and doing 301.
    Can be deindexed, can be hit by Penguin.

    Besides that if you're ranking for "blue widgets" you can't buy a domain with thousands of crappy links, all with anchor links that are not even related to your website.
     
  5. Qokaine

    Qokaine Regular Member

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    you didn't check the pr before doing that?
     
  6. garrido

    garrido Supreme Member

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    It's dancing.
     
  7. audioguy

    audioguy Power Member

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    Update us after one or two weeks to see what it really is. By that time that will be real info I could use :)
     
  8. cgh85

    cgh85 Newbie

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    check the content that was on the domain originally , add the same or similar content, let the site sit there and see what happens, see if the PR returns and if it starts to rank... if it does then maybe do something with it
     
  9. testdrive

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    I know you have quite an idea what 301 redirect means and what it does but apparently, you don't fully understand the full meaning of it.

    Basically, 301 redirect does not only redirect the old site to new site but it also tells search engine that the old site has moved to new site. So from search engine point of view(google,bing,yahoo,etc.) any authority, rank factors like PR, age, unfortunately so as penalties will also be passed/transferred from old domain to new domain.

    From your op, you mentioned that you bought a domain with crap backlinks and did a 301 to your money site. This is like giving your money site a blast of crap backlinks. And since this domain has a lot of crap backlinks, it is extremely possible that it has a current penalty from google.

    That being said, since there are some algo update from google since you have done your 301, it might also be the reason for your drop, but either way, most like your site now has a some sort of penalty.

    If you haven't done it, i suggest you start your recovery by removing the 301 from your new domain. Then add some unique content to your site and give them some good backlink. you might want to add some good link to your main url too.

    P.S. I have read a reply from this thread about checking the PR first before purchasing the domain, but i think it's irrelevant from this situation, You could have bought a PR7 domain, but if the domain have some sort of penalty, it could have the same effect.
     
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  10. john1444

    john1444 Elite Member

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    The truth is, you are just insinuating and just working with your clue..

    Have you tried removing the redirect and see what happens?
     
  11. rockong

    rockong Power Member

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    you can recover from this OP..just get rid of the 301 and keep up what you were doing before that
     
  12. affarmy

    affarmy Regular Member

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    So much disinformation in this thread.

    1) How long ago did you do the 301?

    2) If less than 2 weeks ago, chill out, Let it settle in and see if the dance stops.

    3) If MORE than 2 weeks ago the 301 was done, remove it.

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  13. NoobGuru

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    wow sorry please delete post,i posted in the wrong thread,Had two tabs open with 2 different bhw topics.