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How I got my first SEO job! Thanks BHW

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by BrazenBull, Feb 20, 2017.

  1. BrazenBull

    BrazenBull Junior Member

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    Hello BHW,

    I'm here today to tell a short story on how I got my first SEO job.

    Besides everything people say about Upwork, if you use it the right way, you can have a lot of success! I started with small jobs, like translations and content writing but I'm always trying to win my client offering more than just what they hired me to do.

    Last week I was hired to write for an immigration company's blog, and I told em that I could manage their Social Media profiles. They hired me to write to their blog AND to manage their social media.

    Yesterday I had to turn in my first report about the Social Media, and I included, free of charge, a small research on competitor's websites, including site value, backlinks, DA, PA, TF and CF. Everything wrote in a simple and clear language. Even somebody who never heard of SEO could understand, and this is exactly the case since nobody from that company knew anything about SEO.

    They loved my report, and I put a lot of work on it, I really wanted o impress, and that's what happened.

    Now I got a job offer to help the company rank; competitors don't look like they do much effort, I'm really excited about it.

    Any suggestions? Thanks for your patience guys.
     
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  2. blogzandstuff

    blogzandstuff Elite Member

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    Well done buddy, it always pays in the long run to put a bit of effort in. As they love the work you put in might get more from people they talk to, so it's a good start. Once you've done the work ask them if you could have a testimonial to put on your website, assuming you have one. If not think about setting one up and list what you can do, then contact other similar businesses.
    Good luck, although by the sounds of it you don't need any. I wish you well
     
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  3. CyberHour

    CyberHour Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Good look and don't disapoint them , no black dirty sneaky cheats :D
     
  4. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    niceeeeeee, that is a good way to improve your SEO skill fast too, don't forget to work on your own sites though.
     
  5. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Now outsource the ranking effort to someone else hahaha. If you don't mind me asking, how much they paying you for social media management & how much for SEO?
     
  6. deedee1whoa

    deedee1whoa Senior Member

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    Congrats, dude! Great story. Happy for you. Hard work pays off, see? :)
     
  7. BrazenBull

    BrazenBull Junior Member

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    Social Media Monthly Fee: $40 (I use this money to pay my proxies and MP subscription)
    SEO: $17/h

    I hope I'm not undervaluing myself :oops:
     
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    spectrejoe Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Well, 17/h but how many monthly hours, that's what's important.
     
  9. BrazenBull

    BrazenBull Junior Member

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    Up to 30h/month... I'm somewhat clueless how productive these hours are going to be. I'm afraid not being able to deliver high-quality results. I'm considering doing some sneaky extra work free of charge to exceed client's expectations. Thoughts?
     
  10. MikeyMikey13

    MikeyMikey13 Supreme Member

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    Once you get it number one, they'll never drop you.

    So you'll have it better in the long run the quicker you do it. So do the hours you need to do.
     
  11. Pinktoe

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    Will they give you a budget?

    I also agree with going beyond your hours to please your employers, it will give you more time to learn and to apply it too. And down the line, they will recommend you to others

    If you get them a single extra client a month, they will be very happy. Immigration is not cheap, they tend to make over 2k per client.

    500 a month is low without a budget. If you can figure out their expected conversion rate, and average worth of each client, multiple it by expected ctr, a small business would see the benefits of seo in numbers that they can relate to. More often than not, they'd be willing to invest more, and its a way you can justify seo costs
     
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  12. BrazenBull

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    Nope, no budget, I think they are as excited as I am and don't have a clue how much they should/could spend.
     
  13. Pinktoe

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    What is the competition like?

    I suggest starting a free trial with ahrefs and checking out all of their backlinks manually.

    See if you can replicate them, I'd probably start off there as it may give you ideas. It will give you a clear idea of what you're up against.

    You can also start a semrush free trial if you google it first, checking out the competitors there is great for kw ideas.


    If you have 0 budget, and want to go whitehat, you'll need to develop relationships with other websites, as long as you have something that they like.

    Considering you're already blogging for them and managing their social media, you probably already have the handle on things to do content marketing/infographics/guest posting, developing an effective outreach method will probably be your biggest challenge. VAs are great for helping your outreach purposes, as they can give you the tools to personalize the emails, if you were to ask for a budget, I'd probably start there.

    The niche is not boring, and there are other ways for you to do this, I am just throwing ideas your way, just don't buy shitty links
     
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    Congratulations! Knock 'em dead!
     
  15. louiszhao

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    You should ask your boss which country has the biggest potential, then you hire a VA from that country. The VA will write/translate articles and build link.
    Pay him per article and per link :)
     
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    Hey, nope your not undervaluing yourself.
    It is on monthly basis and that's fine!
     
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    oh its really awesome journey. what is the salary you got in starting?
     
  18. Mikaelo

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    Well done - no better feeling!
     
  19. The Curator

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    Let me know if you have any questions. I always leave room to overdeliver, if the quality is there it will set you apart. For one client they are expecting 3,500 word posts for a recent project - all 7 have over 5,500 with extra keywords to target. When it comes to movie/videos, infographics, social media we always go over...

    Re: blog for immigration lawfirm/company here is a good blog to look for material:
    http://www.brown-immigration.com/Immigration-Blog.aspx

    What sets a blog apart from others imo is the pictures. Finding great pictures to frame the blog posts can really set you apart from the competition.

    With social media I would focus on local metropolitan influencers on twitter; think ALL news organizations and their reporters on twitter, any local celebrities (you never know if this is their passion), in addition to related companies in your niche (follow all their followers).

    I would also look to local institutions like city halls, chambers of commerce, libraries, schools, and following all their followers.
     
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  20. T2tkid

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    Congratulations buddy. That is exactly how to win more clients. Always provide more than they pay for and they will recommend you to their friends.