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How has nobody realised this about Angelas and Pauls links?!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jimbo2087, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. jimbo2087

    jimbo2087 Regular Member

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    Ive got a bit of a grudge against these Angelas links. She sells them as PR6+ or whatever , but if you look at any of them the actual pages have no pagerank whatsoever, maybe 1 or 2 max....

    I mean WTF surely people realise this?!

    There a complete con...Your site will gain a boost from links on PAGES with a PR not from some crappy profile you just made.

    Who cares if the domain has a PR?! Its all about the page!
     
  2. broker

    broker BANNED BANNED

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    Most of them never get indexed either or are deleted. There are all these other services which help you boost these links. Huge waste of time. Much better off getting quality links that boost themselves and your site.
     
  3. nufaman

    nufaman Elite Member

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    I totally agree, jimpo. For some reason people here think that a domain is what passes PR and not the actual page. The just have no clue on how search engines work.
     
  4. JackSparrow

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    But PR does filter down to lower pages eventually.

    All my websites start off with a higher PR on the home page, which eventually filters down to my inner pages.

    Its not a complete waste of time, if the website you are posting to has a good linking structure.
     
  5. nufaman

    nufaman Elite Member

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    The problem is that newbies come here posting something like "get a free PR6 backlinks!", and then you see that it is really a shitty page that most of the times has a PR0 but they think that the domain's homepage PR applies to all the site
     
  6. 1link

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    This is called the noob effect. When a child grows he starts seeing new things and ASSUMES he is the first to see it and makes his opinion and get excited. He wants others to see it too. But the fact is the daddy's and grand daddy's have seen it already and moved on.

    The fact is from the start Angela has been saying this all along. THE BACKLINK PAGE MAY NOT HAVE THE PR BUT THE DOMAIN HAS. I am not shouting here. Please forgive me if you see it that way.

    Do some more research on how this works before accusing someone of something. I am sure you have not bought even one of her link packets.

    I am not praising her cuz there are actually a lot of problems with the links that she sells but her method is not wrong all the way and it works.

    god bless
     
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  7. Timbo

    Timbo Regular Member

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    She has proved her method works.

    Quote form Angela Edwards

    "You may have heard from people who do not have complete knowledge about Search Engine algorithms that leaving your link on an "inner page" that is new or has a low or 0 Page Rank inside of a high Page Rank domain will do your site no good.This is a fallacy.To show that the above statement is false, just do a search in Google for the word backlinks without quotes. You will see an article written by me, Angela V. Edwards, on the GoArticles article directory. I have only used backlinks on inner pages of high Page Rank authority sites for this article. My article currently holds the NUMBER TWO position in Google out ofmore than 13 million completing sites, just below Wikipedia. I have done this by using the inner pages of high ranking websites. You can also do a search for the keyword Angela.You will find my site in the number two spot out of more than75 million competing sites. I also only used these "inner page"backlinks for that webpage as well. Matt Cutts, an engineer for Google who acts as Google's Public Relations contact person was asked about the above statement but he couldn't give a straight answer due to the question being too close to Google's algorithm. You will find part of the interview below.Stephan Spencer: OK. So, I guess, a follow on to that would be: a .edu and .gov link, and so forth....."
     
  8. jimbo2087

    jimbo2087 Regular Member

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    Im not trying to say that PR will not filter down. Obviously there is a benefit to holding a link on a page where the domain PR is high, but she sells them as PR backlinks.

    PR is passed from page to page so obviously all of the pages under a high PR domain will score pagerank, not over time either it will be fairly immediate as the PageRank information we see is 3 months out of date, in fact google is constantly updating it but they dont release it to us.

    Ultimately though Angelas links end up with a PR 1-2. Just check ones that she got a few months back.

    They do work but you need a lot of them to do some real damage.

    This is a PR 5 page with **************** links when you comment:

    hxxp://bavotasan.com/downloads/excerpt-and-content-word-limit-wordpress-plugin/

    This in my opinion beats the hell out of Angelas method
     
  9. 1link

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    Your mistaken my friend. She ain't selling PR backlinks but backlinks from high PR sites; where the backlink page may or may not have a PR in itself. And she never tried to hide this fact. May be you misread something or misunderstood something.
     
  10. vette09

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    Just throwing my $.02 in here. I offer a backlinking service on another forum and it's similar to what they do except I use my own list rather than their over-populated one.

    I just did a 2-week follow-up for a client and here are his results:

    All 4 of his keywords are #1 in google. Before, 1 was #1, 1 was #4 and the other 2 weren't in the top 200.

    One of his keywords went from not in the top 200 in Yahoo to #1.

    He's acquired 20+ do-follow links back to each page.

    Not bad for 2 weeks after the profiles were created.

    So, are they the best and only way to increase SERPs? Nope. Do they work? Yep. But they should be part of an over-all strategy.
     
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  11. Niche

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    I'll admit, at least the marketing of the package has been honest. I wonder if anyone is checking if the links do follow.
     
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    I used to be a subscriber to Angela's monthly links.

    Waste of money honestly.

    And so what if she's ranked for "backlinks"? If she wants to prove her methods work, she should prove it more than just once, seriously.

    Her links are just as shitty as the design on her website: http://angelasdiscountmarket.com/backlink_builder.html
     
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  13. nufaman

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    Well, you'll always have the newbie suckers that think they are worth something.

    I laugh everytime I hear them say the usual BS of "hey, a backlinks is a backlink, isn't it?"

    They are the same ones that come here crying because their competitor is beating their ass with 50 backlinks when they have 10,000, but never realize their backlinks are just crap.
     
  14. aetroijg

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    well in my opinion , i have seen these profile backlinks work , i have seen sites that have jumped in search engine rankings just after building these links.
    there is a reason why there is so much buzz about them. It may not pass PR , but it surely increases reputation of your site , as the links are coming up from good authority sites.
     
  15. justAIMe

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    I saw no real results from using Angela's backlink packs.
     
  16. mdzarate

    mdzarate Newbie

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    a big waste of time and money unless you build 1000's of these backlinks. Most get spammed to hell because she sells them to too many people at once. People abuse them and then the are deleted or have not value.

    The time it takes you to build those 1000's of links even by using software, you can spend 1/2 the time building better ones and get more benefit for less time
     
  17. peter2002

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    Those profile links work IF you do it right and don't spam them. People who always complain that their profiles get deleted have to understand that you have to set up your profile page the way it looks natural/normal. Just to put links there pointing to your money sites won't do the trick. Put some efforts into it and you'll get some good quality backlinks.
     
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  18. eyashwant

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    It is worth to do it, I have seen good results and I do it regularly for me and my clients.

    Just need to know on how to use it! Not a child play...
     
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    These sites don't get spammed because she sells them to too many people, as you stated. They get spammed either because of stupid people who do not have a clue how to handle these sites properly or due to careless people who simply don't give a sh*t whether or not they are harming all others with their spamming.
     
  20. deezydiamonds

    deezydiamonds Newbie

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    She should have kept it to herself. Every outsourced SEO joker is just relying on these packets at the moment - I tell them to forget it, they've had their day. Its not even automated.