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How Good Are You At Spotting Fake PayPal ScreenShots?

Discussion in 'Site Flipping' started by kvmcable, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. kvmcable

    kvmcable Supreme Member

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    I was bored and thought I'd take a stroll over to Flippa to see what's happening over there this week. I see their numbers picked up a bit from low 1200 active listings to mid 1300s in the last week. Per my usual stroll I proceeded to the most active list to see what are the hot listings of the week and entertain myself reading listings that have a lot of comments. Most are from the sellers trying to draw attention but sometimes you find listings where buyers are picking apart a seller.

    I found this one listing currently running in the $500 range with quite a few comments and after reading the title I can see why. The seller is advertising some large revenues per month. I thought wow, let me see these screenshots and see how much money this site has made.

    Well I won't post the listing, you can figure it out easy enough but here are the screenshots. See if you can spot the errors confirming these shots have been spoofed.

    https://flippa.com/auctions/2909359/attachments/847102.JPG
    https://flippa.com/auctions/2909359/attachments/847104.JPG
    https://flippa.com/auctions/2909359/attachments/847105.JPG
    https://flippa.com/auctions/2909359/attachments/847106.JPG

    Sellers: If you're gonna post fake screenshots you better check, double check and triple check your work.
     
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  2. BillyRayValentine

    BillyRayValentine Regular Member

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    I may be getting thick in my old age, but cant see any. Can you give us a clue?
     
  3. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    I was going to ask the same thing, I stared at the pics trying to find the tell tale sign.
     
  4. Untouchable

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    I see a Mar 8 Date that has a smaller font
     
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  5. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    Nevermind I think I see it now, the hash at the end of the url doesnt change at all with each of the screenshots
     
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  6. Madruga

    Madruga Senior Member

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    On the first link, look at the date Nov 16, where it has no "," and such, and it's not aligned right. Haven't looked on the rest, but the point is to always make big eyes before buying something.
     
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  7. seriousjoker

    seriousjoker Registered Member

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    ?=cmd key is not changing at all.
    Any yes "," is missing in many dates.
     
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  8. jeanlance

    jeanlance Senior Member

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    the link is not changing in all the pictures its the same
    i dont know about the rest bu if you guys use inspect tool in chrome you can change anything on the website to take screenshots
     
  9. myfault

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    Just click a clickbank account when we sell those fake incomes on Warrior Forum. Those sellers making $100000 by making fools to buyers.
     
  10. Jared255

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    Making 6k/mo, no reserve, 9k BIN, seems legit
     
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    Or better yet, get a life and stop scamming people.
     
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    Date should be in dd-mmm-yyyy format
     
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  13. Furious George

    Furious George Supreme Member Premium Member

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    the dates are not in a straight line... instant red flag

    A good way to check this is to take a copy of the image and open it in photoshop. Photoshop has red guides that you can open from the sides by clicking and dragging from the ruler quide area to the image. The letter spacing for a 12, 13, 14, 15, (example numbers) will almost always occupy the same amount of pixel width. in other words, 11 will be same width as 00. (as far as kerning goes)

    This doesn't have that.

    I call bullshit.


    There is more...

    The comma is missing from november 16th
    https://flippa.com/auctions/2909359/attachments/847102.JPG

    The fact that he whited out the emails means he used photoshop. (or something)

    From a screen to screen comparison, the width of the spacing of columns differs to great for something on full screen that would be assumed to have been taking on the same machine. That could be explainable, but not the width of the check box and date, that should be identical.

    I call bullshit.


    What a fucking amateur.
     
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  14. repoh31

    repoh31 Newbie

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    It's hard for me i thought i was wright.
     
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  15. bryanon

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    .. which is exactly why I never give any credit to screenshots and don't even pay attention to whether they seem legit or not. The fact that this particular scammer has done a bad job is irrelevant - many others are doing a good job and make their it impossible to tell that their screenshots are indeed fake.

    Always request a live screen sharing session with the seller, where they walk you through their accounts, including the log-in process, and show you the SSL certificate bit to make sure that it's indeed PayPal that they are accessing, rather than a copy of PayPal coming from their local PC.

    If the seller refuses a screen sharing session for any (no matter how legitimate sounding) reason, don't ask any further questions and walk away from the deal.

    The only reason why scams work is that people are greedy and refuse to believe that what they're about to get involved in IS too good to be true. There are almost always red flags, which even the most gullible buyer can identify, as well as precautions that can be taken, but the sad fact is that most of the times it's not the case of the buyer not noticing the red flags, but the case of deliberately ignoring them, as the deal sounds great and the buyer doesn't want anything to ruin it.

    If it quacks like a duck, .........
     
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  16. BillyRayValentine

    BillyRayValentine Regular Member

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    But even that isnt foolproof as the income could be coming from another site. Do you think this is a reason most sites on flippa seem to end in the $2-3k area? EG there is a negative fraud premium built in to the end price.
     
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  17. bryanon

    bryanon Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Of course. I was merely talking about verifying that the revenue exists. This is a very small part of the overall whole due diligence process.
     
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  18. fuarkin

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    Can't find shit
     
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    I see leaking text and Lan is disabled
     
  20. mkstromin

    mkstromin Power Member

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    Yeah...some screenshots on some dates miss commas!

    Gotta be more careful..fakers! LOL!
     
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