How does he do it, very succesfull sites one maker/seo guy, subdomains and page cloaking!

Hey,

While working on my affiliates sites a new site caught eye thanks to its sudden arrivel and swift rise in the top 10 of one of my keywords. Investigating this site, I found multiple sites working in the same method, all very succesfull, all fairly new all from the same owner. Now 3 thinks are unique to this site and his rankbuilding techniques. 2 methods working seperate from each other that I think is helping his rank building. FI want to know A: Is this contributing tho his fast SERP size or not and if so how? and B; how does he do it.

3 methods the site uses

method 1: He uses subdomeins insteed of pages to rank his sites for example
EXAMPLE (remove the 1's and spaces)
l1a1ar1zen . c1owgi1rlboo1ts . nl/

--> he is listed 6th on google.nl (has 8K+ exact searches)

--> questions, what is the advantage of using a subdomain insteed of a page like domain.nl/laarzen ? There must be some advantage, this guy seems far from clueless, so must be a reason?
--> Does it get more of the main domain PR? better cause google says it as a seperate site insteed of a page of a site?

method 2: He redirects people thru other URLs/page then are listed in google + you get different page by going to site thru google then typing in URL...
EXAMPLE (remove the 1's and spaces)
p1artytent . alti1jd-v1oord1elig . nl/ -> page that is listed in google and when you type in url you get to this page
pa1rtytent1ens1hop . nl/partyte1nt-3m-x-3m-c-68 . html -> page that you get redirected thru when you click on his link in google, to test this go to google.nl type in partytent, its nr4-7 somewhere
--> How does he do this? Its more then a simple redirect? You get different results when you type in then if you enter thru google?
-->Does this protect his main site from penalties?
-->How does he prevent google from finding this out?

Anybody who can bring me up to speed on these methods? If you have any more questions, or need example ill be checking this post multiple times a day

Thanks in advance

the 1's really make reading this post a pain in the arse.

please replace with spaces?

mezzie911 said:

the 1's really make reading this post a pain in the arse.

please replace with spaces?

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Agree

His domain just have a random redirect.

Also, even tho I don't know much about link building strategies, my thought is that:
Utilizing several different link building strategies, will give you a higher ranking, and that it is more safe
because you don't have all your eggs in one basket.

Best regards Minupi.

what is the advantage of using a subdomain insteed of a page

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Subdomains, those that before the main site name do not get associated with the main domain, and thus not get punished if the main domain or one of the other subdomains fall out from G's favour.

Imagine how then all these xxxxxx.blogspot.com sites will get differentiated if G would see it as the same site entities.

I think it all lasts from the times when buying domain or hosting was expensive, and people where happy to take on an offer to start their own sites on other people hosts utilising free subdomain estates.

Would love to find out more about this, bookmarked it. The subdomain thing is something I never knew about, didn't realise they are treated as different websites.

LittleBoots said:

Would love to find out more about this, bookmarked it. The subdomain thing is something I never knew about, didn't realise they are treated as different websites.

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I don't know if this is true with the new penguin and panda. From my understanding is that G is looking at this as one page now.

mrtwister_65 said:

Subdomains, those that before the main site name do not get associated with the main domain, and thus not get punished if the main domain or one of the other subdomains fall out from G's favour.

Imagine how then all these xxxxxx.blogspot.com sites will get differentiated if G would see it as the same site entities.

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It isn't true, yes, for big sites like blogspot.com it is, but if there are only several subdomains G will fuck the whole website. Some free webhosts like t35 (or like that, don't remember) were filtered due to huge number of hosted doorways. So if you host only doorways on this domain it will be punished soon.
He does this because index page is better for Google and in this case this is an index page.

I know the answer and had in fact written a 230 pages report with exact methods, charts, powerpoint presentations and 5 DVDs worth of videos to send to you but lost the urge to share after being annoyed by the unnecessary amount of 1's and spaces so I decided to bin everything instead.

ahhaahhahahahaha priceless sarcasm

villain said:

I know the answer and had in fact written a 230 pages report with exact methods, charts, powerpoint presentations and 5 DVDs worth of videos to send to you but lost the urge to share after being annoyed by the unnecessary amount of 1's and spaces so I decided to bin everything instead.

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villain said:

I know the answer and had in fact written a 230 pages report with exact methods, charts, powerpoint presentations and 5 DVDs worth of videos to send to you but lost the urge to share after being annoyed by the unnecessary amount of 1's and spaces so I decided to bin everything instead.

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Legend

thanks

rumbis said:

thanks

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for what? Stop 5pamming here, there is a button for that..

OP: To answer your "2 Method" part - this is a redirect by referrer php script. It serves different page code in a page for the different referrers you assign. Won't go into details, just search G for "redirect by referrer script".