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how does a vpn work vs proxies and can you use many ips on vpn?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by PineappleCrush, Apr 29, 2016.

  1. PineappleCrush

    PineappleCrush Regular Member

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    I am wondering is a vpn suitable as an alternative to proxies when using social media accounts? Thing is with social media accounts you often get you account locked if you change your ip address to drastically so is this a problem with vpn?

    Also if you had many accounts say like 50 accounts, can you have a diffrent ip for each account?

    How is the vpn setup? I want to know if it is a viable alternative to using proxies with bots because I have been having some proxy issues recently on certain projects so want to explore alternatives. Ie how does one access the vpn? I would need some either cli or browser way of doing it.
     
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    It can be used, but unless its a private VPN with only you using those IP addresses.. Go ahead and make the assumption that 100 other people are doing the exact same thing.
     
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  3. PineappleCrush

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    Ah so more like mass shared proxies in that respect?
     
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    VPN is good to use for one thread stuff - like to hide your identity on browsing. Its good to use for your own uses and browsing.
    For IM works like 50 social media accounts or more you need only proxies.
    VPN isnt suitable idea and you need to buy proxies.
    VPN wont let you to have 50 different IPs and its way more hard to control it then to buy 100 shared proxies.
     
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    The main thing what I have sen is stability and you will see on VPNs and when you use IPs then it does not feel on that way what you exactly wanted.
     
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    This depends on a lot of factors, and there are absolutely plenty of ways to distribute IP addresses whether they are owned, rented, or proxies. If you are using bots where you physically enter the proxy information into specific account fields though - you will be unlikely to gain a specific advantage that overcomes your direct issues associated with your proxy use because even on the VPN you'll need to be using some sort of IP or proxy on each bot account.

    If your bots are browser deployed, i.e. iMacros or similar - then firefox profiles can facilitate your needs.

    Most people use a VPN for other reasons. Most people likely use them for various anonymity needs, but a lot of us use them because of the server specs which can allow us to scale our bot efforts beyond what a local machine may be capable of accomplishing, and/or because we sometimes like to turn our home machine off.
     
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    The viability, and usability of either method of obfuscation is variable- What you may succeed using on one social media platform might not work on others, and vice versa. For example, I can tell you from personal experience that Reddit will typically place a "shadow-ban" on most new accounts created from a known Tor exit node.

    The vast majority of those who choose to be behind a VPN are doing such to protect personal privacy, or for legitimate work related purposes requiring access to shared resources on the LAN. The reason for VPN typically being a poor alternative to proxies is because they're shared resources consisting of multiple hosts broadcasting the same address. VPN service providers typically do this to make it more difficult to determine the end-point of a user (the opposite of what most proxy customers would want).

    As far as VPN setup, you should usually have your choice between L2TP, PPTP, or OpenVPN. The latter is probably the most reliable.
     
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  8. PineappleCrush

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    I need this only for a specific case of a website which is causing me trouble uploading when using a proxy. It works without but as soon as I try with proxy I get upload failed. Is there some way to cloak the fact that I'm using a proxy?
     
  9. MuayThai

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    Maybe you need a proxy with higher anonymity?