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How does a brand new BST get a 5 star rating immediately with no orders?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by -0o0-, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. -0o0-

    -0o0- Junior Member

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    Fucking bullshit.

    I see it happening recently and it's something I've seen before in the past.

    From my last 10 or so BST purchases, I've also had:

    1) A seller get banned and another who has recently got AWOL.
    2) A seller not delivering and only responding and refunding me after threats of shitlist notification (for $15...)
    3) A seller perform a bait and switch. Providing me great quality on first order and then bullshit on the second.

    Too much shadiness.

    /rant
     
  2. sashablack

    sashablack Elite Member

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    LOL really dude? If you are looking at the STAR Rating of a sales thread... then you need to change up you game on how to properly make sure you are getting whats advertised :)

    -Sasha
     
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  3. Hawkster

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    What do you propose should be done?
     
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    qrazy Senior Member

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    Who told you that thread (*****)rating is related to or based on the BST's quality?
     
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  5. -0o0-

    -0o0- Junior Member

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    You're missing my point. Sure I will look at the star rating of a BST, and of course, it wouldn't be the only factor in making a buying decision. My question is, how can a brand new BST which has only just been launched receive a 5 star rating within a few hours without having sufficient time to gain any reviews, let alone orders. Who is providing the ratings?
     
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    LOL I was going to say its a BIG secret :) BUT Anyone can do it :)

    Even the original poster! I just Rated this thread 5 stars :)

    [​IMG]

    -Sasha
     
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  7. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    To me that is a missing link in the system that would be best if it were patched... a seller should not be allowed to rate him/herself. -0o0- has pointed out something that needs to be cleaned up if possible.
     
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  8. reallife

    reallife Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I not only never look at the ratings, I never rate a thread. TBH, if you even consider the ratings of a thread, you should really hold back from buying things until you gain a little perspective on the real world.
     
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  9. rabbitking

    rabbitking Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Me along with a lot of other people here have pointed the star rating system as being flawed to
    the staff and if my memory serves me right we could see a change with the new xeno platform.

    Please don't hold me to that but yeah that's what I remember. Stars never properly rate most of
    the time and its a metric we don't need.
     
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  10. LostConnection

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    I do recall similar "promises" as well, that the rating system will be fixed along with the other improvements.
     
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  11. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I never look at the star rating system to determine the quality of a BST. I always look for reviews from respected members here on BHW. Of course, this doesn't always mean that the BST is a high quality BST, although in my experience it's usually a pretty good indicator.
     
  12. redrubies

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    I wait a couple of weeks after the thread goes up before I buy. I can't tell you how many times I've seen things like people saying such and such didn't stick, or they got banned from wherever, or the seller stopped responding, etc Don't be so quick to buy. Wait until the people who bought come back and post.
     
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  13. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I hear about this happening quite often myself. The requirements to open a BST should be stricter than the current requirements as $127 plus the Jr. VIP requirements are clearly not enough. Maybe a mandatory beta testing phase here on BHW or raising the here Jr. VIP requirements is in order.
     
  14. t0mmy

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    We are due a big forum update soon afaik, I'm guessing/hoping the new forum software they move us to will do away with those star ratings.. Hopefully :)
     
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  15. lord1027

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    Ratings are really inaccurate, most buyers will not rate even if they're satisfied or not. Ratings usually come from service owners (5 stars) and competition (1 star). I think less than %2 of customers give the thread a grade.
     
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    Anyone can rate a thread, even the thread creator ;)
     
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    People are unnecessarily ripping on the OP, not every noob who comes here knows that the star system doesn't mean shit. It's better for BHW if it gets revamped.
     
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  18. MafiaBoss

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    just take them opposite.

    5 stars : terrible

    1 star : excellent

    P.S are these "three b00bs" in your username?
     
  19. -0o0-

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    Thank you, I'm sure if I was able to split test whether this thread gets more views based on a 1 or 5 star rating, it would receive more interest for a 5 star rating :)
     
  20. -0o0-

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    Thank you BTB, we can always rely on you for a voice of reason.
     
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