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How do you operate your online business without Paypal?

Discussion in 'Business & Tax Advice' started by PinguSpy, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Kratos168

    Kratos168 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Be careful of payoneer with large sum of money aka more than 10k usd. They would hold the money and ask for proof of money receipt from business activities. If I am not wrong smm is not approved for usage under their terms of services. Please check out before you send in large amount of money.
     
  2. ilovetobun69

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    I don't.

    I just make new accounts :) . your missing out on a lot of profit if you don't take PayPal .people trust PayPal more than other companies even though they are crap.

    Why can't you just make a stealth or business account ?
     
  3. PinguSpy

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    Zero idea and experience, how to do it.
    Also, how do you withdraw the money after that?
     
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    I've used stripe for years, haven't had any issues.
     
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    I am in a high risk business too. For USA customers you can take e-checks from payzang or greenbyphone. E-checks are the best for high risk business because you do not need to deal with the merchant, just the bank. If you need a merchant for high risk business you will probably get it offshore. Contact Instabill for that.
     
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    Plus wanted to know if you have chances of chargebacks ?
     
  7. PinguSpy

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    Btw is stealth account = crime?

    I don't want goto jail for that.

    I know SMM business is not really "white hat".

    But it does not mean that SMM's business is a crime. There's 1 France documentary interview 1 guy from BHW regarding this niche, that I just watched few weeks ago (forgot the link), and the journalist asked Google lawyer regarding this business status, and he agreed, SMM is not illegal.
    You not gonna go to jail for that.

    Client pay us money > We provide the service.

    Just like those platform did, even worse, they even steal their own users data and sell it to the advertiser, and make billion through it.
    That's why Facebook and Google keep getting sue from European gov.
     
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  8. SamLewis

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    No, SMM is not crime.
    Paypal are restricting accounts that are used for these activties as it is harder to monitor and results in more disputes.
    If you want to try with another paypal account just open a different bank account at a different address. It's not difficult to open second account, if you have a business just use the business address instead of personal. However, it likely this account will get blocked by Paypal in short time also.
     
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  9. Kratos168

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    It is illegal anywhere in the world to use fake ids. The below is based upon USA law but should be applicable as a guide worldwide.

    Defendants can be charged by the federal government with:

     
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    I am starting to get worried about my pp now too :(
     
  11. helloyes

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    this is tricky, I guess you can use a different paypal account.
     
  12. medgalys

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    Check mollie. They accept all major credit cards also they have other options.
     
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    I would personally be finding a partner with a really solid paypal account history and make new users pay with crypto and after you have a good relationship with them they can use paypal.
     
  14. ilovetobun69

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    There's a lot of ways. I mostly like to Pay for more product with my money. Rest I withdraw to my bank .