How do you live with wordpress updates?

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So are all these people making it up?

He is not lying, IF you build your WordPress site right and accoring to standards, your site will NOT break, I have never myself either have a site broken due to updates. So ofcourse there are exemptions of it, as always in life.
 

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Even if you find a million that would still be less than 1%
 

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Before creating the account, there is some click boxes, if you not read and check those box, you will get updates.

What? Um, okay.

He is not lying, IF you build your WordPress site right and accoring to standards, your site will NOT break, I have never myself either have a site broken due to updates.

Bla bla bla, wrong :p
 

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Yeah but at some point you hit a brick wall when in order for the updated plugin to work you need an updated version of Wordpress. Right?
Never happened and if happened and if it happens in future i just revert back to previous version
 

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Yeah but Tumblr is like a throwaway thing. Anything that can and will easily ban you can never be something to take seriously. Can't sleep at night man :D

Oh I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE static HTML websites.

I may just give it up all up and just churn out static HTML websites until the cows come home. I love those sites. They're so good, I swear to god :D
You might have a point about Tumblr... I've definitely thought about it, but you could say something similar about any platform, including social media and Google.
Even at the server level, or the power company, or DNS, or any external service, etc, etc, etc.
Even with Static Sites, they have to be hosted on Object Storage, which can still be zapped by big tech interests who manage the object storage.

There might be some decentralized encrypted object storage on blockchain technology, but it's still young.
Last time I looked at it, a promising service had gone under. (LoL)
Point being, I think we just have to keep things in generic niches, when possible.
I'm doing a lot of things in Tumblr, now, though... even controversial niches, but there are others out-there, as well, and I think we're still a bit protected by discrimination laws, perhaps.

I do think about what you're describing, but I also don't know how to completely avoid it.
Even if you build a list, you could argue that mail providers might start blocking your stuff. (haha)
Collect home address or phone number? Then mail companies and telecom start blocking you... :D
There's a certain level of risk, in terms of dependencies, and I dunno how to completely escape that, man.

But yeah, I used Bootstrap Studio's WYSIWYG to build me an easy, simple, fast, generic HTML template, and I used that thing to build a variety of simple sites.
I also had my Tumblr theme built on the exact same template.
Honestly, though, HTML sites are so cheap and performant, I think it pays to just find a guy on a marketplace to make them cheap for you.
You just drag them into your object storage on Azure with CyberDuck, and deploy with Cloudflare.
There are some good tutorials on YouTube for that kind of thing...

When you break it all down... HTML is the foundation of web... it's the cleanest, simplest, most performant website possible. (pretty much)
If I could go back and advise myself, I'd just tell myself to hire guys to build simple sites, and for extra features just use external saas or free tools, or something...
But really... it's just all about simple sites you don't have to jack with, or spend hours trying to find some fix for... I literally wasted thousands of hours on Wordpress sites, in the past...
You can make Wordpress sites static with things like Hardypress, but dynamic plugins suffer.

Anyways, yeah.. it's all about the simple.
Gotta get sites deployed and stable! (so many better things to do.. lol)
 

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Okay, you're another one to claim updates don't break anything.

So are all these people making it up?






I could probably find a million of these.

So when you guys say that updates never break anything for you, like, you ain't right man. You, like, you can't do that. It's not cool. It's not honest. It's... wrong... wrong wrong wrong. You motherfuckers need jesus :D

Again these are people who are deviating from best practices of setting up a WordPress site.

Stick to the way it is meant to be and the chances of an update breaking your site will reduce dramatically.

Now the ecosystem is huge. And as you go for more advanced plugins, the chances of a conflict will arise greatly. So it's best to make use of a staging server to test everything.
 

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So you and all the rest of you who say that if an update causes problems it's someone's fault, with all due respect, you're all full of shit! Guaranteed, on my life.
LooooL, you are definitely confused about what's going on with your website. Probably you asked the wrong question too.

ps: Are your dirty dishes still pilling up in the dishwasher?
 

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LooooL, you are definitely confused about what's going on with your website. Probably you asked the wrong question too.

ps: Are your dirty dishes still pilling up in the dishwasher?
Looking at his replies he most likely opened this thread for trolling.

It doesn't matter if you use wordpress/drupal or other, before doing an update it is best to have a backup saved, in 99% cases that update won't do any damage but you never know.
 

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You might have a point about Tumblr... I've definitely thought about it, but you could say something similar about any platform, including social media and Google.
Even at the server level, or the power company, or DNS, or any external service, etc, etc, etc.
Even with Static Sites, they have to be hosted on Object Storage, which can still be zapped by big tech interests who manage the object storage.

There might be some decentralized encrypted object storage on blockchain technology, but it's still young.
Last time I looked at it, a promising service had gone under. (LoL)
Point being, I think we just have to keep things in generic niches, when possible.
I'm doing a lot of things in Tumblr, now, though... even controversial niches, but there are others out-there, as well, and I think we're still a bit protected by discrimination laws, perhaps.

I do think about what you're describing, but I also don't know how to completely avoid it.
Even if you build a list, you could argue that mail providers might start blocking your stuff. (haha)
Collect home address or phone number? Then mail companies and telecom start blocking you... :D
There's a certain level of risk, in terms of dependencies, and I dunno how to completely escape that, man.

But yeah, I used Bootstrap Studio's WYSIWYG to build me an easy, simple, fast, generic HTML template, and I used that thing to build a variety of simple sites.
I also had my Tumblr theme built on the exact same template.
Honestly, though, HTML sites are so cheap and performant, I think it pays to just find a guy on a marketplace to make them cheap for you.
You just drag them into your object storage on Azure with CyberDuck, and deploy with Cloudflare.
There are some good tutorials on YouTube for that kind of thing...

When you break it all down... HTML is the foundation of web... it's the cleanest, simplest, most performant website possible. (pretty much)
If I could go back and advise myself, I'd just tell myself to hire guys to build simple sites, and for extra features just use external saas or free tools, or something...
But really... it's just all about simple sites you don't have to jack with, or spend hours trying to find some fix for... I literally wasted thousands of hours on Wordpress sites, in the past...
You can make Wordpress sites static with things like Hardypress, but dynamic plugins suffer.

Anyways, yeah.. it's all about the simple.
Gotta get sites deployed and stable! (so many better things to do.. lol)

You get it. I can tell you get it.

Yeah there's no way to be bulletproof, I agree. But like, we do what we can. You host your own shit because you'll sleep better than having your website "hosted" on blogger or wordpress for free.

You host your own email for your main email because you'll sleep better than using Gmail or any other (even though I use Gmail as my main email platform, but the actual emails arrive on my self-hosted email address and then get forwarded to my gmail). So if gmail or google ever bans me, my emails continue to arrive and all is well with the world.

HTML sites rock. You don't even need to pay anyone. You can probably get hundreds if not thousands of HTML templates for all sorts of interesting sites for a few bucks, even for free, and then edit those templates to make them all nice and functional. All you really need is knowledge of HTML and CSS and you can do it. Shit, you don't even need to really know CSS other than a few basic things, the entire CSS coding is so self-explanatory (assuming you know English of course).

What's object storage? You mean like hosting (storing=hosting your object=website)?

Yeah, fucking dependencies, I also don't know how to escape it. There's always some shit breathing down your neck. There is one dependency I've managed to avoid, and that's fucking SEO and search engine traffic. Like, relying on that source of traffic to make money. So fucking slow, so fucking unreliable, so fucking fragile. I mean sure, if you rank for a high search keyword you can make serious Bank, but what are the odds, and for how long.

This is why I sell services. You get a customer, you get 1000 customers, you do a good job, you don't take the piss, they buy over and over again, for years and years, and you can sleep at night :)

So what would you use for a simple blog? Wordpress?

You know, in truth, when I think about it, the only thing Wordpress offers that I would have a hard time getting elsewhere are plugins that allow me to autopost on social media sites. I mean there's services like kuku and dlvr.it and others, but those wordpress plugins really make it easy to autoshare stuff to social media sites, and for free.

Everything else can be made anywhere else, and it wouldn't be too hard either.

Ok boss, I trust you then, from now on I will only build static html sites, thank you for changing my life, I´ve been having an affinity.

Well, would make your life easier, in a way. You're welcome bro :p

Again these are people who are deviating from best practices of setting up a WordPress site.

Stick to the way it is meant to be and the chances of an update breaking your site will reduce dramatically.

Now the ecosystem is huge. And as you go for more advanced plugins, the chances of a conflict will arise greatly. So it's best to make use of a staging server to test everything.

Staging server? Rocket science? :D

Yeah, if you aren't an Advanced user, then you won't have any problems. :eek:
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:D

I rarely face any issues with WP updates
Where are your sites hosted?

Rarely means it happens sometimes. Yes it does.

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LooooL, you are definitely confused about what's going on with your website. Probably you asked the wrong question too.

ps: Are your dirty dishes still pilling up in the dishwasher?

I don't think I'm confused. Everything is crystal clear.

I'm unsure about a few things going forward, but not confused.

Yes they're piling in the dishwasher haha. Just yesterday my all-natural organic bio dishwasher detergent arrived, so that's nice. I also ordered a body shower gel with extract of organic cannabis from the same store, can't wait to take my next shower in a few months :D :p lol

Looking at his replies he most likely opened this thread for trolling.

It doesn't matter if you use wordpress/drupal or other, before doing an update it is best to have a backup saved, in 99% cases that update won't do any damage but you never know.

I never troll. That's a waste of time.

Yes, you never know. And sometimes what you never know happens, and you're in shit.

It doesn't happen with HTML sites, it does happen (and it's unavoidable) with wordpress sites. The end :)
 

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You get it. I can tell you get it.

Yeah there's no way to be bulletproof, I agree. But like, we do what we can. You host your own shit because you'll sleep better than having your website "hosted" on blogger or wordpress for free.

You host your own email for your main email because you'll sleep better than using Gmail or any other (even though I use Gmail as my main email platform, but the actual emails arrive on my self-hosted email address and then get forwarded to my gmail). So if gmail or google ever bans me, my emails continue to arrive and all is well with the world.

HTML sites rock. You don't even need to pay anyone. You can probably get hundreds if not thousands of HTML templates for all sorts of interesting sites for a few bucks, even for free, and then edit those templates to make them all nice and functional. All you really need is knowledge of HTML and CSS and you can do it. Shit, you don't even need to really know CSS other than a few basic things, the entire CSS coding is so self-explanatory (assuming you know English of course).

What's object storage? You mean like hosting (storing=hosting your object=website)?

Yeah, fucking dependencies, I also don't know how to escape it. There's always some shit breathing down your neck. There is one dependency I've managed to avoid, and that's fucking SEO and search engine traffic. Like, relying on that source of traffic to make money. So fucking slow, so fucking unreliable, so fucking fragile. I mean sure, if you rank for a high search keyword you can make serious Bank, but what are the odds, and for how long.

This is why I sell services. You get a customer, you get 1000 customers, you do a good job, you don't take the piss, they buy over and over again, for years and years, and you can sleep at night :)

So what would you use for a simple blog? Wordpress?

You know, in truth, when I think about it, the only thing Wordpress offers that I would have a hard time getting elsewhere are plugins that allow me to autopost on social media sites. I mean there's services like kuku and dlvr.it and others, but those wordpress plugins really make it easy to autoshare stuff to social media sites, and for free.

Everything else can be made anywhere else, and it wouldn't be too hard either.



Well, would make your life easier, in a way. You're welcome bro :p



Staging server? Rocket science? :D



:D



Rarely means it happens sometimes. Yes it does.

Hostgator shared



I don't think I'm confused. Everything is crystal clear.

I'm unsure about a few things going forward, but not confused.

Yes they're piling in the dishwasher haha. Just yesterday my all-natural organic bio dishwasher detergent arrived, so that's nice. I also ordered a body shower gel with extract of organic cannabis from the same store, can't wait to take my next shower in a few months :D :p lol



I never troll. That's a waste of time.

Yes, you never know. And sometimes what you never know happens, and you're in shit.

It doesn't happen with HTML sites, it does happen (and it's unavoidable) with wordpress sites. The end :)

Not only with wordpress but with all CMS's and yes it doesn't happen with static HTML websites because those are less complex and don't have many independent modules (themes/plugins). While most plugins are made to be 100% compatible with the platform there are some that might have issues and will break the website but that is the case mostly with plugins. I'm sure if you disable all plugins and then update wordpress you won't have any issue with the software itself, but when you will activate the plugins one by one you might notice some things might not work as expected.
This is why i don't update wordpress right away, i do it after ~3 months, in this time, the developers of these plugins which i use have enough time to test and fix any bugs that might happen after that core update. I noticed that after there is a big wordpress update, some plugins get updates in a few days too, if you look at the "changelogs"; you will notice most of the time there are bug and security fixes.

Cheers
 

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Not only with wordpress but with all CMS's and yes it doesn't happen with static HTML websites because those are less complex and don't have many independent modules (themes/plugins). While most plugins are made to be 100% compatible with the platform there are some that might have issues and will break the website but that is the case mostly with plugins. I'm sure if you disable all plugins and then update wordpress you won't have any issue with the software itself, but when you will activate the plugins one by one you might notice some things might not work as expected.
This is why i don't update wordpress right away, i do it after ~3 months, in this time, the developers of these plugins which i use have enough time to test and fix any bugs that might happen after that core update. I noticed that after there is a big wordpress update, some plugins get updates in a few days too, if you look at the "changelogs"; you will notice most of the time there are bug and security fixes.

Cheers

Yes, yes. Well said.

My 7 year old HTML site is laughing at all of us :D

But at least it's good to know that there's a way out of madness. I mean really, if I wanted to just sell stuff and never worry about anything else, I'd go full HTML site and full spam. This way you have no website problems ever, and you don't depend on the whims and wishes of google and bing and the rest of them for anything.

You sleep like a baby and you're your own man.

It's good to know that exists as a possibility. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy :)
 

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Backpacks, before update I make full backup, if something breaks just won't update that plugin.
Basically everything is possible to achieve with coding, but wordpress is for lazy people, you want
something just throw a plugin. So my suggestions try to erase as many as you can unusable plugins.
 

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Backpacks, before update I make full backup, if something breaks just won't update that plugin.
Basically everything is possible to achieve with coding, but wordpress is for lazy people, you want
something just throw a plugin. So my suggestions try to erase as many as you can unusable plugins.
Sorry Backups can not edit my post. :D
 
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