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How do you find 301 redirects pointing to a domiain?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Techxan, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    When I look at some sites and it makes no sense why they rank I sometimes wonder if they are using redirects.

    How do you find how many domains are directed at a website to be able to tell?
     
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    May be they are using PBN ? i think there is no way to hide 301s may be i am wrong.
     
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    301s can be hidden just as PBN links can be hidden. If they are not hidden, you can find them using backlink checkers like ahrefs, majestic, and open site explorer.
     
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    I use Majestic and that works but honestly I find them mostly through archive.org check there and see if you have as much luck as I do.

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    The same way you find any other Backlinks. It can be hidden if the 301 is done via .htaccess instead of redirecting from the domain registrar. You can also 301 a domain to another 301'd domain.

    For ex,

    Money site <-- 301 <-- 5x 301's.
     
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    Check using ahrefs, click Inbound Links, see attachment, like what others said if they hide the footprint, we are not able to find it
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    I'd go with some other backlink tools than ahrefs or majestic. There are a handful of russian backlink checkers that aren't that popular and therefore not blocked through .htaccess on most redirects or PBNs ;)
     
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  8. Techxan

    Techxan Elite Member

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    So a redirect just shows up as a backlink? Is it that simple?
     
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    Yes it is, when the redirected domain is crawled by any of these backlink checkers's spiders.
     
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    I use Majestic and that works
     
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    This is pretty sneaky, never thought of that.
     
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    On Ahrefs it does....shows up as a regular link and on the details it says 301. That's what a 301 is anyway, just a regular link.

    But if the PBN owner is smart, he'll cloak out the 301 for spiders other than the interesting bots. So you can't find this 301's using ahrefs and MJSEO
     
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    Yet, very powerful. I use this method on several of my sites and they rank at the bottom of the front page with perfect on-site optimization and ZERO backlinks(except the 301's) to the money site.
     
  14. creepez

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    Hey I read somewhere that 301's transfer anchor texts from backlinks of domains.So are you doing 301's from niche relevant sites or just random niche sites ("I was bad informed") ?
     
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    Yeah, 301 passes all the anchor texts. Think of it like you're making a xerox copy of the expired domain. All the backlinks and anchor texts it had in the past will be passed on to your money site but what we need here is not the anchor texts but the link juice and the authority the expired domain is holding. I don't usually find many niche relevant expired domains so I 301 whatever high authority domain I have access to. It doesn't have to be relevant. If it's relevant, it's just an added bonus.
     
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    Ok thanks , sry for being boring but i have another question since im kinda a newbie for SEO.
    So for example i want to rank some of my sites for specific keyword ex w w w.domain/my keyword . And i do 301 on that url it will pass link juice and i would rank higher for that directory increasing my PA but my DA will remain the same since i 301-ed to specific directory instead of root domain?
     
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    It'll have some effect on your DA too. I'd say don't worry about how much PA/DA your site gets after doing 301 as it's just some numbers.

    What we need to look after is how much organic traffic your site gets with the help of 301.
     
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  18. creepez

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    Would you then suggest blasting your root domain with 301 to get some authority then making a dir on your site for specific keyword ex w w w.domain/keyword and blasting that url to rank for that keyword or you would just blast that specific url to rank even if the root domain doesnt have any authority ?
     
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    If you were to 301 to sub-page, the page will rank but it won't stay forever as the authority of your root domain would be still very slim and the sub-page's rankings will heavily fluctuate. If you send all the 301's to root domain and have perfect internal linking(similar to silo structure), www.domain.com/keyword will easily rank with just the onsite optimization and a bunch of high quality backlinks to that sub-page.
     
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  20. LukeSanderson

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    Backlink finders such as opensiteexplorer andmajestic do show 301s, though they may not show all.