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How Do You Decide A Niche To Dive Into?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Dan Da Man, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. Dan Da Man

    Dan Da Man Elite Member Premium Member

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    My problem is deciding which niche I want to go ahead with. What are some key factors you look for when deciding? Competition, how to monetize , etc..... I always want to do them all and I have trouble just sticking to one. Any thoughts?
     
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    Make sure there's volume and that the niche is profitable. (high cpc, high adwords competition, uptrending)

    Then check the SEO Competition and determine how hard/resource consuming it would be to outrank the Top 10 websites.

    EMD availability is an added bonus.

    As for monetization, starts with AdSense/Amazon/CB route and move to CPA, content locker etc when you're good at ranking sites.
     
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  3. MarketerX

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    Also consider the demographic of the niche :) (I prefer niches targeting women)

    This guy laid it out nicely for you, though.

    EDIT: In my opinion, you don't necessarily have to be good with making websites and ranking them to reach the target market in whatever niche you choose. There is lots of targetted traffic that you can get from other sources...(Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, the list goes and and on.)
     
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    best way is to become very freindly with gogle kkeyword tool external,

    start making spreadsheets on your keyword you are gathering. eliminate all but the top performing15-20

    and make sure that there are good products that are selling in that specific niche that you are targetting as well uunless you have a service to offer

    Rob
     
  5. Dan Da Man

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    How about selling physical products? CPC that I am looking at right how is about $3.00. I have trouble determining competition. Every time I think it is too competitive, I under estimate myself. The keyword I am ranking on page 1 right now took me very little work, 16,000 exacts, $3.30 CPC and MY site is less then three months old. I am selling physical products btw.

    How else do you gauge your competition?
     
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    Good products to sell is pretty much the only thing I consider. If you've got a good product you can sell (decent affiliate program with a good sales page at a good price point) then it's all go. Get some keywords, generate some pages and see how you do. You don't have to be number one for high traffic keyphrases... You just need to be getting at least some targeted traffic and you'll make at least some money.

    For this reason I don't worry about competition too much. If it's a money making niche then there will be competition, but even in heavily competitive niches you can slide in the cracks somewhere. I would be more worried if there isn't much competition - generally that's a sign that there isn't much money to be made in that niche.

    For example, recently I decided to get into the "self confidence" niche. The competition is light in the serps and almost non-existent on Adwords. Now I have a bucket load of confidence traffic but it just doesn't want to buy anything. Various affiliate products, Clickbank tours and even my own very compelling and cheaply priced product on Plimus have thus far failed to convert the traffic at anything like a decent rate. The niche is low competition for a reason - the surfers suck ass and are a bunch of tight asses.

    Compare that to another niche I have just got in to, forex. It's a high money, very high competition niche but there isn't that much traffic overall compared to other niches. I've only just started with this niche and only have a trickle of traffic from a variety of long tails, and yet the sales are already starting to roll in at up to $250 each. Surfers in this niche are motivated and geared up to take action and spend, but if I had just looked at traffic numbers or competitiveness I would be missing out on that cash.
     
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    Thank you Autumn, some great insights!
     
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    How much are you making from that site right now?

    You'd make at least 5k/month easily with 16k searches keyword.
     
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    Pick a niche you like. If your work is driven by passion, you will succeed. If you pick something you think you should, because of competition or money, you will give up a lot sooner, than if you picked something you liked.
     
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    Well I just jumped up to the first page and at the number ten spot. Made a few sales but literally it has been two days. Now, I am excited lol :)
     
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    All of the arguments of the other members are the same in my opinion as well.

    But for me at least, what's most important once I get EMD, search volume, CPC or other monetizing (affiliate, etc), is interest. I must be interested in what I am writing about (unless you plan on outsourcing in which case forget all this). I mean in promotion, you'll need to write and spin A LOT of articles. This will be a lot harder if you actually don't like the subject in question here or it bores you.

    So apart from everything else, make sure that you wouldnt be bored after writing 10-20-100 articles on that subject (depending on competition ;) ).
     
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    At least for E commerce sites, it seems quite hard to get exact matches. Are they really necessary? I usually just get "keyword domain" - pros or direct or kings or something like that
     
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    I feel like everyone is doing CPA, Adsense, etc. Does no one do ecommerce anymore?
     
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    Why create more work for yourself with eCommerce storets? I don't want to have physical goods lying around... Unless your talking about drop shipping. Entirely different. I did think about setting up a boutiqe store for my girl she is pretty crafty
     
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    Sorry, I was talking about drop shipping. How many stores do you own?
     
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    I'm new like you Dan Da Man ...

    Just started earning online.

    Feels good man.

    I'll go with Gary Halbert theory of picking a market... Make sure it's large, reachable and people are hungry to buy i.e they want your shit.

    This I believe breaks down into a few evergreen markets.

    Health, wealth, and relationships.

    Nothing new...
     
  18. Dan Da Man

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    Sorry I am not new, I just figured it was obvious that I was drop shipping. I own two sites that I dropship and I was wondering if I got lucky with competition or I am just that good at SEO :) It is funny to see my site ranking for keywords and the site is less then 3 months old and all the other sites ranking are 7-12 years old :)
     
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    Quoted for truth. Pick something you have already have an interest in or are passionate about. Having that inner fuel can really make or break your success. If you're running a blog that you don't really care about, marketing products you don't really care about, and you're not an immediate success...you're going to have to do some work with little to show for it initially. This can be trying if you don't already enjoy what you're talking about.

    I suppose I do it the opposite of many here: I identify my interests and then I look in them for my niches and keywords. I've had a lot of success utilizing this approach though.

    Just my two cents!
     
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    Your not new but you're still not sure how to select a niche...??

    Sorry Dan Da Man, Maybe I missed something Lol