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How do you anonymously take payments?

Discussion in 'Business & Tax Advice' started by elim, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. elim

    elim Newbie

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    Apologies is this is the wrong section of the forum, didn't really know where else to put it.

    How do you guys take payments via cheque/bank transfer whilst maintaining anomynity? I'm only just getting into my blackhat and in the process of signing up to a number of affiliate companies to try out some blackhat stuff that I'd rather my name wasn't associated with.

    elim.
     
  2. stunna

    stunna Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Most of the blackhat information I have read recommends that you use your real info for actually getting paid.
     
  3. java

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    Why, unless you've crossed the line from breaking rules to breaking the law? In any event, you can set up LLC/Corps. to remain anonymous.
     
  4. stevesdata

    stevesdata Regular Member

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    I have read 2 things on this:

    1st always use real info in case it screws the payment

    2nd some ppl recommend setting up a company and a po box so if you get banned you can sign up again to the same aff

    I am in UK and very interested in this area. If you are doing stuff online may as well stay as anonymous as poss imho. Its very easy to get sued for almost anything so helps if not very easy to find out who you are.

    I would be very interested in finding out more info. Can you make up a bogus name and get cheques made out to the company that you (real info) can cash. I am assuming it is a US thing to use company name only?

    Interested in different options. I might try and do all black hat stuff in my girlfriends name lol.

    :D
     
  5. Fartmaster

    Fartmaster Registered Member

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    The easiest way without a big budget to spend on making yourself untraceble is to find some loser who needs some pot money or money for some malt colt 45, make sure he is really stupid and never did anything constructive in his life, people who get a monthly check from social aid are great for this....

    Put everything in their name, get bank accounts, accept money transfers at western union and other such services, get debit cards, epassporte accounts and just about every other tool you will need to end up with cold hard cash in your hands as the end result.

    Pay the loser a few bucks for the favor, chances are he will forget all the "favors" he did for you and will not ask for extra greasing from you in the future, if he does, keep him at bay with a 20 dollar bill here and there, maybe a lunch at mcdonalds, anything to shut him up and keep him living in his little pathetic world that he is stuck in all his life.

    You will be able to run a few hundred thousand through his name then a lot of blocks will come up, so you just move on to the next moron in line and repeat or set yourself up 100% offshore at that point now that you have a lot of cash to play with for expenses.
     
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  6. Freddie

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    Fartmaster,

    Whilst what you describe MIGHT work, it seems that almost EVERYTHING you do these days to disguise either the origin or the destination of funds qualifies as m#ney la#ndering!! Especially in the US. It doesn't seem to matter if the money was obtained legally or illegally and if there was tax paid on it or not.

    If you could care less about the trouble you could cause to whatever crackhead you intend to find for this purpose, then go ahead at your own risk. If you believe in karma then I wouldn't.

    When trying to obtain payments anonymously I think you should probably ask yourself if you would want to remain anonymous legally or illegally........

    I am not lawyer but I am guessing your way would not be legal
     
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  7. screwster

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    I've been looking for something like this as well. One way would be to have them wire transfer the money to internet wallets like epass, moneybookers, ...
    With epass however you need to verify the bank account as being yours. And moneybookers clearly states that 3rd party deposits are not allowed due to anti-money laundering regulations.
    There must be others that are small and still allow 3rd party deposits. Or maybe ad systems (adwords clones) that allow to fund your account with wire transfers.
    But any which way you most likely need the option to enter a reference number or comment with the wire. Otherwise they won't know it's you who wired the money.
    Or if other BH'ers send money from the same 3rd party, how will they distinguish what's from who?

    I found this text on one of the ad systems.
    "Any behavior that might seem as an attempt to use XXX as a way to transfer money between two or more of those payment methods without spending most of the money in our system will result in dramatic increase of transfer fees (to 15%) before any following transaction is carried out. You should be OK if your conscience is clear."
    This shows that there are people using this methods.

    I also found this site:
    hxxp://www.privacy.in/an0_check_cashing.htm
    Anyone knows if they are legit?

    And anyone has some more clues?
     
  8. chickuzt

    chickuzt BANNED BANNED

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    Monybookers and Liberty Reserve are by far the best you are going to find.
     
  9. xgnux

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    you can open up liberty reserve or webmoney...then go to paysgold.com buy a debit card..now you can cashout those 2 nearly anonymous you only need a anyonymous postbox or something like that...
     
  10. mearington

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    I use Ornojo and as far as I know they're anonymous. And free!
     
  11. dangregory

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    This probably isn't a good idea - I'm not a big fan of this grey area stuff - but if the network can pay you via PayPal you could register under a fake name and create an email address for PayPal that isn't tied to your name. Can't you have at least eight emails at Paypal per account? So you could concievably have payments come to one of those alternate emails at Paypal and nobody would know who you really are.
     
  12. wholesalediscountsales

    wholesalediscountsales Newbie

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    dangregory: I think he is looking for a solution to extract that money from gay*pal and turn it to cash. Having it sit in PP isnt that great considering they are actively seek to have an excuse to freeze accounts so they can seize the funds and increase their bottom line