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how do these backlinks work?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Bartman, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Bartman

    Bartman Power Member

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    I googled a very competitive term and found the first site's backlinks

    all of his backlinks are on sites like these:
    http://myfoursquare.net/
    http://www.terryclothfabric.net/
    http://www.taosanctuaries.org/


    now what's special about these sites?
    I noticed 2 things:
    high PR (4, 5, damn)
    This guy has thousands and thousands of such sites.

    when you look at the links in context, they make no sense. they were inserted randomly into normal articles.
    for example, the article might say

    Today I went to my LOSE WEIGHT cousin's house and he said he wants to watch a movie. I asked him what DUI LAWYER LOS ANGELES movie he wants to watch and he said....

    inserted at random places.

    What I can't figure out is how he did it. Does he own all these sites? Is he hacking these sites (unlikely)
    is he paying the site owner a rental fee for these links?
     
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  2. Simas9

    Simas9 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I`ve checked this website a couple of weeks ago... he is a part of like 15-20 'home page backlinks' networks...that`s it.
     
  3. WizIMS

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    He just bought link (or he just own it) from a high PR blog network :)
     
  4. MrE

    MrE Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It is a high PR blog network, excellent for crushing rankings and delivering results.

    You can check my sig for a similar service with blog posts on high authority sites, and lastly..... DON'T OUT OTHER PEOPLE'S SITES BRO. ;)
     
  5. milans

    milans Regular Member

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    Don't cry it's just a blog network.
     
  6. THECEO

    THECEO BANNED BANNED

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    What he said. And def not cool outing someones sites like that.
     
  7. Bartman

    Bartman Power Member

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    well, which blog network is this? because with BMR, you are only on the homepage for like a day and then you get dropped.
    which network lets you stay on the high PR homepage?
    and what do you mean dont out other peoples sites? its public information that anybody can find.
     
  8. -Jericho-

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    It's been posted a few times about not outing websites. Not sure where it's written at but the reason being is that it may be another BHW member's site. I don't like my sites posted here and neither do other people.

    As to your first question, you can create your own network of sites like this easily. It just costs money to do it. You can either buy homepage links or do it yourself.
     
  9. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    In bulk these cost <50 cents/month each
    Sometimes much less
    though still it's probably a lot easier to just make your own and do the exact same thing (collecting 100s/mth from each foolish person wanting a link)

    Also I've been noticing a lot of these appearing at once, or just having a lot of these high PR nonsensical links, is a great way to get your site sandboxed.
     
  10. Bartman

    Bartman Power Member

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    I am interested in joining a network because if I build my own, I would have to spend a lot of time and money getting their PR's high
    I have been googling but I am not finding anything at 50 cents per link...all I am finding is like $2 per link...where did you get 50 cents?
     
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  11. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Posting 3 d0follow PR4 blog comments is tough? Not sure I get this attitude at all. You not only get the links you get the money too... from 50-60 people every month
    100 domains = $100 + a bit of time investment and 100 articles worth of labor...
    Charge for blogposts and permanent homepage links... you could set his up within 2-3 days tops


    Very first link I came across:
    http://backlinksforum.com/backlinks...-includes-google-page-ranking-6-47-month.html

    0.47/link
    Of course you can find more...
     
  12. Simas9

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    and that is what I call major bullshit...
     
  13. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    It could have been for other reasons, of course, that did not immediately jump out at me when taking apart their backlinking strats.

    However, it did make plenty of sense. Hyper competitive terms, massive, quick SERP rise, 1000s of homepage links from totally unrelated sites in such a fashion... 1 month at top positions before falling 50+ spots.

    5/9 niches I operate in this has happened to dozens of sites in the last few months.
     
  14. proudlytwisted

    proudlytwisted Regular Member

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    Sounds like sites supported by nothing but BS links and content. Those don't tend to rank very long.
     
  15. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    I think this is precisely what buying homepage links are...
    at least if you make them yourself you can ensure excellent content for your links and shove the paid crap into the blogrolls
     
  16. Simas9

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    If any of you guys are going to give the networks from the BSF a try be really careful - about 1/3 of the networks which are being sold there like a quality service are in fact de-indexed @ google...
     
  17. Bartman

    Bartman Power Member

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    I'm sorry but I think you are highly mistaken.
    100 domains is $100? I use internetbs which charges about $6 per domain. so 100 domains is $600.
    and then there is hosting them on multiple class IPs. I dont know how much that costs, but I will assume $50 a month.
    and you are saying to increase a domain's pagerank all I have to do is post it to 3 blogs? its more like 300 blogs. I will assume that this will cost me $50 on odesk for EACH site. so that's $5000.
    AND it takes 2-3 months at least.
    so we are talking about 3 months and close to $7000?

    the only thing keeping me back from joining a network is TRUST. I am trying to promote my white hat site and I dont want to join a network that does anything shady or blackhat. BMR is very clean and trustworthy but i dont like them because they are not homepage links. any trustworthy networks?
     
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  18. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    1and1 will give you .coms for $1 for the first year... abandon any domains that don't get the PR you want after a year and buy more.
    Thereabouts... though it's somewhat of a mystery if C-class IPs even matter unless blogs are interlinking together
    I have no idea what you're talking about.
    PR is a formula, at least it's assumed that a PR of 3-4 can be obtained simply by several d0follow high PR links to the site (this is still just theory I suspect, as no one has really tried, though PRs upwards of 4 are fairly easily gotten)
    I haven't exactly seen a huge amount of information in regards to case studies on this, and I don't know how your SEO skills are in general.
    I personally have 1000-1200 (not 100% sure) autoapprove, d0follow, PR3+ blogs in a text file.
    Such a network would take hours, not even days, to successfully seed with high PR links to them.

    PR is updated in a short period of time on google's end, though of course no one is sure.
    Take 1.5 million Scrapbox links or just a crapload of high PR (even n0follow ones) and send them to the network... :yumyum:

    Take the 50-60 PR3+ domains you get out of it and sell blogroll links for $4/mth per domain on digital point or elsewhere...
    50 links per domain x $4 x 50 domains = 10k/mth
    $2-3 for blogposts = another $7k/mth ish
    (rough estimates, and possibly higher than could be realized)

    I seriously would be amazed if it took you longer than a week of work to set up 100 sites to all have PRs of 2 or greater next update.
     
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  19. darkmonk

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    Well, one trick is to pick up mid-high PR domains that just dropped, and then raise it from the dead, recreate the site structure and most of the content. Then you can continue to try to support and increase its PR. This would save you the time part (time to build PR) but would cost a little more for the domains.

    But for building PR without caring about ranking for any terms, you can just use various tools to push tons and tons of links at the sites. I've done it with a few sites using stats link tools, Scrapebox, etc. as an experiment and have been able to jump PR in a month.

    At some point I'm going to finish building my network and jump into this game. It seems like an easy couple of grand or more a month in subscription fees.

    I do think it would be smarter for the guys using these to rank to hide their links even just a little bit so its not so easy to reverse engineer. If you want to use something like this against a white hat site, you might want to build up a ring of buffer sites and throw your shady links against those. It'll dilute the link power but safer.