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How do some of you guys know so much about servers, coding, etc?

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by dotthei, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. dotthei

    dotthei Regular Member

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    I guess I'm just lost in a sea of information, and don't know where to turn.

    I've been researching, reading, and studying for the last year and I STILL feel like I don't know jack shit.

    I still don't know HTML really well, I know Photoshop pretty well, but don't really know any coding or anything of that sort. Let's just say I couldn't sit down and code up a website...

    How did some of you guys learn how to code, and know so much about servers? I see people posting about VPNs, SSL this, tunnel that, PHP scripts, DDoSing, botnets, etc, etc. and most of the time I have no idea what they're talking about...

    How do these guys learn all of this stuff? Reading books? Reading blogs? Reading articles? Watching tutorials? College? Mentors? Teachers?

    signed,

    a n00b.
     
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    menaice Regular Member

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    I have 3 college degrees in the computer Field and trust me you learn something new everyday. There are alot of times where i stop and think "wow i really don't know shit" Alot of it comes from trail and error and just experience. Failure + persistent = successful outcomes.
     
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    abhi1 Power Member

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    ^^I have a Quantum Bio-Neural storage device attached to my brain..I just store all the ebooks in it & tada!! I get smarter :D simple as that
     
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    pyronaut Executive VIP

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    I went to university, but aswell as that. I just learn on the spot.

    Try doing a "website" not a method. And you will be forced to learn php/html. Thats pretty much the way i learned, i didnt learn from any tutorial. Just when i need things done just google and read.
     
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    WickednDivine Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I've been coding since I was 9 years old, have a Bachelors Degree in Computer Science, and Have worked as a full time software engineer for 5 years.

    It's not something that happens over night.
     
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    betster77 Regular Member

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    my CPU is a neural net processor... a learning computer
     
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  7. john.morrison

    john.morrison BANNED BANNED

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    It isn't hard, just dedicate some time a day to learn something new. Also, make sure you learn from the Pros, (e.g. video tutorials, and good books).
     
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  8. dropzone

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    VPNs, SSL this, tunnel that, PHP scripts, DDoSing, botnets, etc...highlight, right click (using Firefox) context menu, select > search google

    As was mentioned try doing a website or ? I wanted to learn a macro program; picked Autoit and started with a dead simple script: change google preferences from a 10 result display to display 100 results and then the next script logged me in to BHW. My latest project scrapes CL addys. Most every computer tidbit I've learned was because I had a reason.

    Start with Php, Html or whatever - give yourself a small project and bust your butt to complete it and then as they say...rinse & repeat!
     
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    eurgbp Regular Member

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    always ask google, there are plenty of answers to each and particular question
    whether programming, hosting etc

    at least i do that
    i code for myself, pretty lousy coder i am but it helps me to be non dependable
    fluid, make my own stuff and experiment
     
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    trial and error
    every question I have I'll just look it up on the search engine or look for related problems in forums

    and this is not a overnight thing to learn, it took me like a year just to know to know how to build a decent website

    oh and somethings come with instructions ;)
     
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    The majority of things have come from a need to learn. I set out with a goal and then Google things that I get stuck on. Now I know how to do them next time.
     
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    i take classes on programming, server related stuff, and web development, if you wanna learn coding a good place to start we use in class is www. javabat .com
     
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  13. blazen

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    I wanted to code my own software, so I bought some books and spent time reading and trying out the exercises. I eventually worked my way up to bigger projects. Coding isn't hard, but you must be willing to spend some time learning it. The more time you spend learning about the programming language of your choice, the quicker you learn how to code for it.
     
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    I taught myself HTML on a bus in Costa Rica (1996) - well actually I had to ride 3 buses twice a day for about a month. I also started to 'program' with an Apple II+ (which really means I copied programs off the back of mags)... I remember having a Zoom 240 baud modem or something - chatting with a friend with the black and green monitor was the coolest. Shit I don't even know what a baud is anymore... my CPU had about 48 or 56k of memory TOTAL... someone correct me here!!!

    Ya so just FOCUS on one facet... try to master that and THEN move on to the next building block... build a house out of wet mud bricks then whatcha got?
     
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    MuonTrail Registered Member

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    All of the above. There's never an end to the learning. Like wowhaxor said, a lot of it comes from needing to know how to do something, so I just have to dig into learning how to do it. Some of it comes from me being bored and thinking.. "Hey it would be nifty if I could do this..."

    But most of it comes from being lazy and wanting to make tools to automate things. :)

    Not to try to overwhelm you, but I've been doing this for 8-9 years and I still feel like I haven't learned enough yet. My tip: Find some aspect that interests you and dig into that. Then keep repeating with new things. :)
     
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    Lots of people here have degrees in Computer Information Systems, Computer Science, etc.. Plus its seems there are likely quite a few people like my self who have held day jobs as system admins, programmers, etc..

    Just my observations.
     
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    A lot of us just have a lot of real world experience. I didn't finish high school, dropped out of University, but have been working in IT since 1996. I started programming at 14 on a Commodore 64 and have been tinkering with stuff ever since.

    Just keep on plugging away, and you'll be a guru in no time.

    TIP - remember to 'steal' other's knowledge. If you're trying to write a script to do something, chances are someone has written and published something very similar - find it, understand it and modify it.
     
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    It's simple to learn this, just start with a WYSIWYG like dreamweaver. Start building some websites in the design part and then looking at the code before and after. This will help you to learn some basics.

    Now you have attained the Noob level

    Then when you are ready to learn more, use google to find templates, scripts and other freebies on the web. Start cutting and pasting scripts together to reach your desired effects. Take time to try to learn what the scripts are doing.

    Next, take on a php script and start editing various things to achieve your results.

    Now you are a script kiddie

    Last, start building your own scripts from the ground up, starting with simple things and progressing into more detailed scripts.

    Now you have just wasted 9+ months and you officially know nothing :p

    Remember, building a website is the easy part. Getting it to rank well and getting it to make you money is far more difficult. Don't spend too much time on coding, spend more time on getting paid using tactics that you do know or learn.
     
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    Even if you want to just start learning some basic html, there are tons of tutorials online. Also, view the source code of a few web pages, you'll start to see patterns developing (you'll have some "ah-a" moments). I started out doing sites in Dreamweaver but found it more rewarding to code by hand because I could see what the various tags would do, and it fueled my desire to learn more.
     
  20. MuonTrail

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    Quoted for truth. Other people's code is an invaluable resource. Find something that does what you want and figure out how they did it. You'll learn things that you may not have even thought of on your own.