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how do i start my own seo business?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Bartman, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. Bartman

    Bartman Power Member

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    hi guys
    as you know, it is impossible to rank for something like "SEO company" or anything related to SEO
    I really want to make money doing SEO and maybe web design. but these 2 fields are impossible to rank for. what do i do?
     
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  2. fiesta

    fiesta Junior Member

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    identify potential clients in your area, call them and ask if you can mail them an offer
     
  3. DocBrown

    DocBrown Regular Member

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    The reality is that if you were really any good at SEO you would be a millionaire and wouldn't have to go setting up an SEO business. People that set up SEO business's are (IMO) failed SEO specialists.
    It's a big like learning business studies in college from a failed business man.
     
  4. jstover77

    jstover77 Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I agree with this to a point. I do think there are a ton of shit SEO companies out there, but still some that are good. Thing is the ones that are really good are very expensive.

    I used to do SEO for clients when it dawned on me one day that I was wasting my time and I could be making much more money doing it for myself. Now I only do SEO for my own businesses and with companies on a revenue sharing basis. Much more money doing it this way.
     
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  5. Wings[SENSE]

    Wings[SENSE] Regular Member

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    Sorry but this is complete bullshit. :rolleyes: I know someone making 6 figures per month on autopay with his SEO business and many others making massive money pretty much on autopilot and they all own a SEO biz. And guess what, they're definitely not failed SEO specialists as they are working with Fortune 500 companies and ranking them for some crazy hard keywords.

    I do agree with what jstover77 said tho, there is many many SEO companies out there that are really bad and giving a bad rep to the good one.
     
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    teeniegenie Supreme Member

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  7. undermyhat

    undermyhat Registered Member

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    If you can't rank your own service How are you going to help other businesses rank theirs?
    You need first to prove yourself as an expert in your field. Then offer your service for free to help somone who's in turn will write you a testimonial and refer you to other business owners. If you are good people will find you.
     
  8. david wright

    david wright Regular Member

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    Like the person above me said. If you can't even rank your own service or if you have to come to this forum to ask how to start an SEO business then you probably SHOULDN'T be starting an SEO business.

    Gurus are getting rich selling offline WSO's but nobody ever talks about how dealing with clients is a B|TCH! They make it seem like it's all so easy.

    It's one thing getting to rank your own site and it's another one completely different to try to rank a paying client's site and have that pressure on you to deliver results to people that are often impatient and don't know nothing about how SEO works
     
  9. crosscheck

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    Go get ranked in seo/web design in your city or town. It will be much easier to rank local.... black hat and or automate your site to the front page. Get some local clients and from there its all referrals! I have done this exact thing since being a member here and I signed up in August! I spun my wheels in information over load for about a month here but once I put my head down and got to work its been growing:) I studied my local competition and set my pricing a bit cheaper and gave them a little more. Get results for them and they will pass your name on:biggthump All of my SEO jobs have been referrals. I went from being laid off in July and now up to my eyeballs in work. It can be done dude! Be local be personable do good work get results and it will all flow together! If you get over whelmed fall back on some services here!
     
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  10. Bartman

    Bartman Power Member

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    The competition in my city is fierce, it is impossible to rank.
     
  11. Bartman

    Bartman Power Member

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    There is a big difference between ranking "seo company" and ranking "dry cleaners"
     
  12. edcollins

    edcollins Newbie

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    Just sell SEO services on here. Plenty of members make a lot of money doing this.
     
  13. thebug

    thebug Newbie

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    Just to reiterate what crosscheck said - rank for "seo company DALLAS TX" or "seo company RICHMOND VA" or wherever it is that you live. That will be easier to rank for than just "seo company" itself.

    This is what I am in the process of doing myself and have a few friends with businesses that I am doing work for - website design and ranking their sites in Goog1e. Once these are finished I'll have a nice little testimonial page when I go after the businesses that don't know me from squat.

    Hope that helps...
     
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  14. crosscheck

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    Same here Bartman! The main metro area for me seo is big so I just targeted a smaller area just outside.
     
  15. killsey

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    I'm also looking to set up my SEO, backlink building business and make a website for it.

    Although, I have a newbie question:

    Is it necessary to set up a company for SEO business or I can start it as an an individual without company and offer SEO services for clients through my website, is that legal or not? And later when I get a number of clients I would set up a company for this?

    Thanks.
     
  16. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Impossible, what a negative attitude, you've failed already with that talk.

    Obv. not impossible if other ppl have done it...extremely difficult? perhaps.
     
  17. bertbaby

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    Think niche, long-tail keywords and market accordingly but you should know this if you are doing SEO!
     
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    luisqp66 Junior Member

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    As Taktical if he is a "failed SEO specialist". Do not take your own SEO failures as a generalised case.
    What matters only is value perception.
    You only need to be better than the one is asking for SEO service.
     
  19. Marcink99

    Marcink99 Power Member

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    I would start your journey from changing your avatar to something more......ammm what
    the word Iam looking for? Professional, maybe someone on bhw would be interested
    in your services you could try opening sales thread.



    anyways have you thought about adwords ? you could use it for generating some local clients.



    Rank your site for local terms its possible... (saying its not possible makes you look like a looser in front on your possible clients) + ranking your site above other seo ?specialists? will make you look as better internet marketer.
     
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  20. ejbnas

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    I've heard of this guy on warrior forum where he spend months trying to rank for "SEO philadelphia", and after getting ranked on the top 1st page, he realized it doesn't get him that much business. I'm sure it helps, but maybe doing it with combination of other things of starting your SEO business would help like networking at local chambers, cold calling, mailing, and then from getting clients there, you work on the referrals. All the best buddy!
     
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