How can I recover from the Panda updates? Anybody have any advice for me? I had some sites ranking pretty high (I purchased these and made nearly double on my 8k investment before Panda) that were primarily profile backlinks but also some comments. No intricate link wheel or web 2.0 strategy had been implemented to disguise the blackhat appearance of the backlinks. Here is the thing, I know most of you are going to say that's why I fell in rankings. I refuse to believe this because they had sat there for nearly two years and had had no work done to them within months of the time they severely dropped in ranks. It was timed with the different panda updates and now my income has been crushed. I'm wondering what to do. Would it be better to simply start from scratch on the whole network of sites or to somehow try to get these out of the depths of Google search? How would I get them out? I don't really even know how to white hat create links anymore because I feel these techniques I had thought to be white hat are just slow manual versions of the black hat techniques. So looking for two pieces of advice. Do I start over on fresh domains? How do I bring them out of the sandbox? They aren't de-indexed but they are sandboxed I believe. Not in the first 200 results for what they used to dominate.