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How do I go about not getting caught with blackhat CPA

Discussion in 'CPA' started by xelex, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. xelex

    xelex Junior Member

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    I am still unsure about a few things.

    Firstly when I register to the networks do I use my real details. Name address, email? What happens if I get caught and banned with those details?

    How do the netwoks Pay. I assume it's by cheque. So that means I do need my correct details.

    I'm in the UK, and have a schedule that doesn't allow me to wait for the phonecall. Is it easier to phone them straight after I sent my App?


    Things I've learned so far: Use a fake referer script. which is posted on this site. Lie on the application form to look like the kind of advertiser they want. Use multiple networks so that each network only see's me making a small bacnk.


    Any tips or advice will be greatly appreciated guys. I'll keep on reading this forums, for the rest of the day, but there's only so much info I can filter through....
     
  2. amar55in

    amar55in Newbie

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    Hey, I'm new , but here's the idea,but use fake details and withdraw the money to paypal use the mail like pinkpanther@gmail.com and not yourname@gmail.com for paypal.How can the CPA people check your personal details on your paypal account?
     
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  3. xelex

    xelex Junior Member

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    do they even pay through paypal. I thought most of them Paid by checks..
     
  4. MaxSteve

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    lamborman, most networks pay by PayPal. But just a heads up that there are plenty of other ways networks have to find fraud that simply your application or blanking out your referrers.

    You want advice? Look into greyhat activities or blackhat SEO. Find ways to market that bend the rules to your advantage, but still lead to the end merchant getting real leads from real people. I know there are plenty of people on this board who can help you do that.

    Stay away from the fraud lead BH that is frequently advocated here.
     
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  5. xelex

    xelex Junior Member

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    I was thinking about that. I've been thinking about ewhoring and icentives being the fastest easiest way of making the bank in a short time. I basically neeed to make 1000$ by july.

    The thing I am also worried about what if I get a lot of people that fill out the forms with stupid stuff just to fill them out.

    I also assume that the point of the CPA adds is to get targetted people to convert into buyers after they done the action, so if I bring in a lot of junk traffic, the network may decide to tell me to fuk off.

    But then again if I sign up to like 20 networks and build the bank gradually I may not have a big problem.

    I havn't found as many helpfull information on Blackhat SEO so far on this forum, perhaps I need to keep researching :pcguru: If someone can point me in the right direction I'd be thrilled.


    So do the big networks like hydra and neverblue pay by paypal too? Should I use my legit account or make a fake one to be the middle man?
     
  6. xelex

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    Guys this is my strategy. I would really appreciate it if someone experienced commented on it and told me whether it's a good shot or whether I'm wasting my time.

    Sign up for networks that pay through paypal. Sign up to at least 20.
    Get an army of white knights to do the offers for me, earning me a really small income on each site. all while also sending some just traffic their way.


    $$ profit?

    Again would I need to sign up with my real details?
     
  7. sinewave

    sinewave Senior Member Premium Member

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    I think the trick is -- whether you are playing by the rulebook or you're using *unorthodox* marketing methods -- is to deliver solid value to the advertiser in the form of a targeted lead.
     
  8. enrikole

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    Yep i second that. If you want to be in this game for long then you need to make sure that you dont just generate a lot of leads, but you must generate leads that will convert. If you just get lots of rubbish black hat leads that dont convert in the back end you wasted advertisers money and you simply will not get paid. Does it make sense? Like would they pay you for some crap? So while ago I used to advertise this poker offer. They paid really well and my affiliate manager knew that i use was blackhatting and incentivizing offers that did not allow that. But because i had a good relationship and most of my leads converted in the back end he was more then happy. In fact my leads converted better then some other guys white hat leads. So as sinawave said : deliver solid value to the advertiser in the form of a targeted lead.

    And i have used my real details. You can set up a new company real easy so you can apply with new company if banned.

    And a lot of networks pay via paypal.

    And i always call like a next day after submitted the application. Say something like: i applied yesterday and was wondering if there is anything i can help you with to make this application review easier for you.
     
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  9. sinewave

    sinewave Senior Member Premium Member

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    Nice advice FromANetwork & Eric. Very much agreed for my part.
     
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    enrikole BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    hehe.. I dont think anyone has ever called me Eric :D
     
  11. sinewave

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    Well dammit! An assumption and a typo all wrapped into a single short post. Sorry!
     
  12. enrikole

    enrikole BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    hehe.. thats what i thought.
    P.S i was not offended or anything. Just remember how i misheard a girls name once and for a half year i would call her with a wrong name,and she was too shy to correct me. So for ages i called her Lucy but her name was Lisa.LOL . Didnt want same happen to you.
     
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  13. xelex

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    Thanks for a great reply, Really appreciated. Thanks a lot, That cleared things up a bit. If anybody else wants to share more wisdom. I really wouldn't mind it :)
     
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    lovekanewangbo Newbie

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    come on and never give up
     
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    You should know, the more you do to anonymize yourself, the harder time you're going to have getting approved. Networks have something called "Fraud Meter", which is a whole series of red flags with varying point values. If your points go over their threshold, you will be automatically declined by the system. Some of those things include requesting Paypal payout and using a P.O. Box. This is literally built right in to the Direct Track system. Also, if you get caught defrauding any network that shares, your info will be published to a whole series of networks, making your life that much more difficult.