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How difficult it is for ranking for that?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Scipio00, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    I ranked serveral pages on the top 10 with very low competition and now i search for a new challenge. The page is in german so its way harder to get backlinks. You are more on your own and there is way less opportunity to get backlinks without paying for them.

    I am able to invest much time in it and i found a keyword.info domain for 600$ that i could buy - 2 years old.

    Keyword has 5.480.000 results and is a one word keyword for physical product of about 100$. 300k searches a month.

    h**p://img13.imageshack.us/i/rankingt.jpg/
    (please take out the "*" of the domain)

    Place 1 is idealo.com <- you can search for cheap prices there
    Place 2 is ciao.com <- you can view product reviews there


    How much money is worth investing in this project (i am smart but pretty new to the business)? I thought that if i get on #1 i make 1000€ - 3000€ a month with amazon - but nobody shares numbers for that in germany... So its a very hypothetic guess.
     
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  2. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    bump - nobody? :-(
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Well, it will be very difficult and no amount of money is guaranteed on return. I also don't understand the whole "german" thing. Are you only targeting germany? Is your monthly searches german searches or global searches? You won't rank on google.com with a german website.
     
  4. PlanetSEO

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    well im not sure in how hard is the competition for this keyword, but i ranked few websites on different locations like russia, france and some other locations its not hard if you have someone with you that is understanding the language i usually hire writers from the country i'd like to get ranked in for your example get an german writer this would be my first step, im not sure how good are you with SEO but for me the only expenses is for articles and translations and you can get this for pennies.
    but take a moment to check the competition because it can take a time to get ranked
     
  5. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    Yes, my website is in german (i am german), and it should rank for "google.de".

    Well... my problem is... i don´t know exactly how hard is it to outrank authority sites for single keywords.
    But i search for a challenge! :)
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Well it will be easier to outrank those other websites in google.de, because from what I can see, they are not targeted to German audience. So if you target to Germans, you should be considered a higher authority. Also, as I was wondering before, is the 300k searches only for google.de or global?
     
  7. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    300k monthly searches in germany in german language for german users.
    And the competition, of course, is in german, too.
    The stats are from google.de (german google).

    I checked the backlinks of #1 and they are more from low PR Sites. The problem is the high authority status of the site. Its a site like Pricegrabber or Pricerunner - never had any experiences with beating these kind of sites.

    Please consider that it is probably 2-3 times harder to get a german backlink.
     
  8. PlanetSEO

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    why its 2-3 harder times to get german backlink?
    and why you can't measure if the competition is hard?
    i mean didn't you check this already?
     
  9. janist

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    Isn't a backlink a backlink? What i mean is, that you should be able to build links like everyone else. i.e. submitting articles to ezinearticles (in english of course) and put your backlink in there.

    Or will google only consider backlinks from the specific country?
     
  10. Scipio00

    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    The most german SEO´s have the opinion that just german backlinks are good for german google. I think 25% international backlinks should be fine and perhaps washing some link juice through funnel systems could be working - but all of that are assumptions and i have no clue.

    Measuring the competition... i am relatively new to the business and like i said, i don´t know how hard it is to beat authority sites.
    If there is another wordpress blog i want to beat, i am able to see what i need for beating it.
     
  11. gandalff

    gandalff Registered Member

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    i'm ranking fine with .be domains with at least 70% english backlinks

    + i'm also raking well with .com domains in google.be

    I i were you I should try more english backlinks
     
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    It will be much easier for a google.de then it will be for google.com
     
  13. Schoolboy12

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    And I agree that google.com backlinks really give a boost to google in other countries.
     
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    Scipio00 Regular Member

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    Okay, thanks for the input.

    Anybody can tell me how difficult is it to rank #1 for this?
    Should i be able in 3 month, average SEO knowledge, 500$ investment, keyworddomain, 1h a day?