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How did you guys do SEO?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by PinguSpy, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. PinguSpy

    PinguSpy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    1. Did you guys just randomly purchase any SEO service package that's sounds cool with good testimonials/reviews?
    2. Once you bought it, either the rank increase a little bit, after that, what will you do next?
    3. ..or if the rank 0% move, what will you do next?..

    Sorry for this n00b question's. Because on this time I have no idea or clue what I suppose to do in order to rank my website.

    PBN? That's sound cool buy .. buy buy...

    Socials? Wow nice reviews... buy.. buy.. buy

    EDU... GOV... buy.. buy.. buy...

    After few weeks either the rank drop or increased.

    Next step still confuse what should I do next?


    I have website A when I do SEO it just gone.... LOL

    And website B (last I do SEO is 1-2 years ago) now it straight rank for my targeted keyword...


    I have no idea about SEO anymore. :confused:
     
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  2. misteryou.

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    i use a pen and paper and write anything i plan to do. old school
     
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  3. accelerator_dd

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    1. Find something that makes sense
    2. Try it
    3. Evaluate if result is good or bad
    4. Repeat from step 1

    Try things until you start moving up. It might take a few sites before you make it wokr (penalized a few times), but that's part of the process.

    Once you know what you are doing, you can outsource to sellers here so you can scale faster.
     
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  4. ThopHayt

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    Buying links is in a way easy enough. This, that, the other... you want diversity. The trick is being able to choose only quality links, and avoiding buying garbage. This is the easy part.

    The trick is having a keyword plan, a building scheme for your site's various pages, and a plan for building your links (your tiered plan, how many links you need, what anchors to use). This is 70% of the game. Actually sourcing links to buy is the VERY easy part.

    As I've said, you can buy the right service and do the wrong thing with it. Or you could buy a service that is great for one goal and use it in the wrong way.
     
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  5. Boomba

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    I'm no SEO expert, but having solid keywords is pretty damn important to start with. If you choose extremely competitive keywords you can expect to pay more to rank, or even with a decent service you won't get good results.

    I have an understanding of it, but from my own results and the time it takes I would rather pay for it.
     
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  6. nigglesmelb

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    I SEO by:

    * new topic every day (I run a site that is not a single keyword focus)
    * name images as per what they show + add a caption / alt tag
    * No follow plugin for all external links
    * Use synonyms for the word I'm targeting that day - I know Google can do semantic analysis, but it doesn't hurt to give it a helping hand
    * Yoast plugin to generate meta data
    * Check my Google webmaster stats to see what's working and what's not - change up the working pages if I think they could get more hits
    * As above but generate new articles in a similar theme to what's working - some may disagree and say that dilutes the ones that work
    * Decent but not too expensive hosting + Cloudflare to make it as fast as possible
    * Good Wordpress theme

    My stats aren't huge but they're growing steadily and for the terms I'm ranking it's not too bad a click through rate as per the attachment + even though I get #1 for a certain term, I'm position 7 for a variation of it that gets a lot more click-throughs.

    ctr.jpg
     
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  7. asap1

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    I buy all my tier 1 links besides PBN links, don't waste your time just build your own.

    Buy some web 2.0s, profile links, and a link package in the marketplace for $100-$150 that give you a bunch of different links.

    I also like to buy about 20 articles and post them on linkauthority.com

    After that I boost all these links with GSA and start posting articles on my PBN.

    If needed ill go to SAPE and buy maybe 10 nice homepage links, you can read my guide on that http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/814511-step-step-sape-guide-get-40-tf-homepage-links-1-3-m.html.

    Thats pretty much it, its honestly that easy.
     
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  8. PinguSpy

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    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh nice tips there.

    But overall it's still trial and error.
     
  9. nakamura

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    Very individual. Depends on the niche, their competition etc.

    1. First I do a small analysis.
    Check the competition (#1-10) & their backlinks - this will tell me how much effort / links I have to put in this niche.

    2. Then I decide if I should get a brand new domain (if possible with kw inside) or if I should get a expired/deleted one with a solid backlink profile (if possible in the same niche). Actually I always decide for the expired ones, cuz its faster to rank imo.

    3. Creating the website and considering the onpage seo - keyword density, word count, structure etc.

    4. Putting the website on Google Webmaster Tools (only this website on the gwmt account) and getting it indexed asap with "fetch as google" and adding its sitemap.

    Now the offpage SEO can begin - for me it is very important to make things look as natural as possible. This means I take into account the links strength, anchor diversity and the velocity of the link-building process. I don't fire all my pbn links on the website first.

    Anchors: In the weaker links (web 2.0 profiles, pdf, article etc.) I am using the naked URL, brands and sometimes some anchors with kw inside (no exact match). On the stronger links (PBN) I am using naked URLs and exact match keywords. But never over optimize it. That could be more harm like charm.
    Basically I never used/will use SAPE links.

    Waiting a few days and then go:

    1. Some Social Bookmarks and Social Signals
    2. Diversity Links with RankerX (Web 2.0 profiles, Wiki, PDF, Article Directory)
    3. Manual web 2.0s and some automatic ones also with RankerX

    Take all these links and blast links on them with GSA.

    4. Starting with PBN links.

    And then waiting for 3-6 weeks to see results.
     
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  10. Tove

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    what do you buy for your tier 1 diversity links?
    I'm using only expired tumblrs as power links.
     
  11. blackbeans

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    Whether you're buying SEO or doing it yourself, you need to get a clear view of the BIG PICTURE of SEO

    I don't want to sound old Zen Buddhist on you, but hear me out.

    A lot of guys try to do SEO by making sure that everything is optimized and they really go all-out building backlinks.

    I take a different approach and I believe I'm getting better results because I try to do things as naturally as possible.

    What is the natural approach to SEO?

    Focus on content that actually has demand.

    If you build your website around existing demand and all that content flows from that existing demand and user behavior, you increase the likelihood that your actual visitors would share the word about your website.

    Part of this process, of course, is earning backlinks organically.

    Of course, I don't just sit on my ass and wait for the links to come in.

    I also put in some effort going on social media and reaching out to other bloggers and website owners in my niche to let them know about content that they may be interested in.

    You see, people are always interested in linking to quality content.

    I know this may blow many people's minds because a lot of people are hellbent on building closed or walled-off gardens but the reality of natural and organic SEOs, the people are always looking for great content to link to.

    You see, if somebody came up with a really nice piece of content, that piece of content is enhanced when it links to an equally nice piece of authoritative content.

    Do you see where I'm coming from here?

    So, this is how I do SEO.

    I do volume content.

    So, the content generation is not an issue for me, but my point is focus on keeping things as natural and as value-driven as possible and you'd be surprised as to the results you get.

    The best thing is you not only get good results but you don't have to lose sleep at night because Google is not going to penalize your website because you cut corners or try to trick Google.
     
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