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How Confident are you that this Google Algojoke screw up is only temporary ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Geoff_Saari, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. Geoff_Saari

    Geoff_Saari Newbie

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    Thanks to this royal screw up by G im losing 80% of my monthly profit , and I know there are thousands of people like me wanting to believe that this is temporary .

    I read in another forum someone saying "I've talked with a few guys I am still in contact with from 'G' and they are not very happy. It seems the algo is churning out erratic results and they are frantically trying to fix the problems... Expect another update very soon."

    I also read somewhere that apparently Matt Cutts admitted they blew it .

    Anyone have good reasons to believe it will all go back to normal ? (pre April 24)

    Thanks and good luck to everyone!
     
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  2. ComputerEngineer

    ComputerEngineer Senior Member

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    Well i think the last time algo is correct not an error and it will stay. This Matt guy is seriously enemy of link building even with the price of decreasing search quality.
     
  3. beakon

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    The results are so bad right now it has to be a joke. Ya I lost some sites that Google may consider in violation of their guidelines with linkbuilding, but it doesn't mean these sites don't have high quality content.

    I also lost pure whitehat sites in this mess as well, so there are definitely many innocent casualties out there.

    While this mistake of an update may not get entirely reversed, but if it doesn't get atleast heavily tweaked I can see Bing's viral snowball start rolling.

    Just imagine the commercial opportunities for Bing to show comparisons of search results to Google, that will get people switching over.
     
  4. blackieman

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    Yes, there are some types of sites that can go viral, and some that just don't. Most amazon affiliate sites for example talk about stuff that don't go viral. A person who spends on link building is making an investment and will naturally protect that investment with good content.

    Too bad Matty boy cannot see that. Or, does he want Amazon (e.g.) to always rise to the top.

    Badd for search quality.
     
  5. jon_xx_x

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    I don't think it will change, and I'm fucking annoyed.
    I've lost #1 rankings on dozens of sites. Dozens of sites with several pages of unique content.
    Fucking crooks they are. They make up some bullshit about overoptimization, keyword stuffing etc, but 90% of the sites hit have nothing to do with either.
    What a bunch of fucking idiots over there.
     
  6. Chicilikit

    Chicilikit Senior Member

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    It will change, I have been thinking about it. Maybe stupid Cutts and other guys from google has absolutely no idea how many people are building links so they thought they will hit with this update only few "bad" guys, now when they see that most of the search results shows absolutely crazy stuff and half of the internet is upside down they will change it.
     
  7. gorang

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    Could be right.

    They talk about "blackhatters" as if they are a minority. But probably 95% of webmasters would be classed as blackhatters by their definition. The only whitehat webmasters are those without budgets or who have never tried to increase their website's rank.
     
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    We have to get off the Google roller coaster. Seriously with the time and money I have put into making them happy, I should have just tried out various traffic suppliers and bought the traffic.

    I was the champion if white hat. Didn't help a bit. Went from 250 + uniques a day to 30. Make 31 cents in two days, and that came from paid traffic. Now fuck them, I will build what the hell I want drive traffic without Google.

    Anyone know of any good traffic suppliers that don't require $200 to get started?

    Anyone willing to share a you tube video that is driving traffic to a site so I can see examples? I figure not, but I appreciate it if you do.
     
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  9. bigwhite

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    I bet it stays, but is tweaked to an extreme.
     
  10. SuperLinks

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    I'm extremely confident that there will be a revert, and/or serious modification to the current algorithm VERY SOON.

    As mentioned by many people in this forum, there's a ton more garbage that's now ranking in the SERPs. And these are sites/pages that Google would never want to have ranked, we are talking about error pages, parked domains, tag cloud pages, and everything in between.

    People that are freaking out right now need to take a deep breath, and relax. Yes its a shitty feeling losing rankings, yes your wallet is taking a hit, but this won't last. Let things play out BEFORE taking drastic action. All you'll be doing is shooting yourself in the foot once the dust has settled.
     
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    It will take some weeks before the algo is perfected. That is why some junk pages are still appearing in the top spots of search results.
     
  12. Jeanne

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    I read on another forum that it's permanent now and Google isn't making any manual exceptions. I hope that's not true. :(
     
  13. ezines

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    Yeah, saw a lot of junk pages are on good position right now. And to be honest, these are not the sites which Google says, good user experience and relevant results. So, I'm expecting a change...when? no definite answer, perhaps in a week?

    Where is that forum?
    Do they have a good source or simply speculation?
     
  14. gorang

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    I don't think it is temporary. However Google changes its algo a lot, so I think there will be tweaking which lessens the dramatic effect.

    They certainly got something wrong with this update. If they purposely wanted the results to be this bad then I would be shocked.

    Maybe this is Google's wake up call that a lot of the guys who do use SEO make BETTER and ore USEFUL sites than the people not employing supposed "blackhat tactics".
     
  15. beakerhat

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    I am confident that it is going to be changed. The search results now show way too many spams anyways. By the way, that line you gave here is from warriorforum right? I went to that room and found out someone committed suicide after this update. How true is it?
     
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    The algorithm will be at least "tweaked", the results right now are not very good.

    I also think they are making corrections as I no longer see some of the ridiculous rankings like some people have cited (ie the blank blog ranking on page 1 for "make money online").

    I think we probably just have to wait it out until everything settles.
     
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    The faster negative seo expands the faster the penguin will be put on ice.
     
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  18. bushbabie21

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    Wow, he really jumped the gun on that one if its temporary...no pun intended

     
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  19. Jeanne

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    Well, let's get going on that. :)
     
  20. mrankin

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    We know for sure that there will always be more changes down the track, therefore by definition the current state of play cannot be permanent. From my own experience, most of my sites have stayed the same or increased in rankings which I am happy about. I do have one site that was #1 for a search phrase with an EMD, but is now about 30 or so. The site is old and the content hasn't changed in 2+ years - so I wonder if this is now a factor. Either way, I'm not changing the my approach to link building as it is producing results, and changes like this don't seem to rock the boat too badly. In 6 months time there will be another major change and you'll be bitching all over again.

    My recommendation is to diversify your link building strategy. Personally I stay away from anything that is 'proven' to give you a massive boost in SERPS, as I know it won't last. Slow and steady wins the race as always. My strategy (no matter the type of link) stays roughly the same - Junkish/low quality links -> Good/Medium Quality Links -> Money Site. Also Good/Medium Links -> Very Very Good links -> Money site.

    I've also just started using directory backlinks again as these are always good and won't hurt.