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how can you trust people in the SEO business?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by lexis, Oct 26, 2014.

  1. lexis

    lexis Regular Member

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    hello everybody, i hope i don't sound rude bringing up this issue but i find it quite hard to trust people in the SEO business.

    I mean, we are all here to make money, there's all these sellers and all these buyers

    for example, sellers buying reviews for their fiverr gigs... then a buyer going and looking at all these reviews and thinking wow this is a good seller he's got a bunch of good (fake) reviews so i will buy from him

    a bunch of people getting scammed... a bunch of things not getting delivered as promised, etc.

    i mean even sale threads on bhw, sellers quote their reviews but how many of them are actually genuine and real?

    how many sellers out there are not actually just in it to make the money but actually want to help others?

    it's really a touchy subject to bring up especially on forums like these, just some thoughts of mine on this sunday morning
     
  2. antichrist

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    Talk to the sellers on skype. You will learn reallllll fast if they are helpful or not. Ask for on site suggestions and see what they say and judge from there.
     
  3. CeceXXZ

    CeceXXZ Junior Member

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    This is what happens in Fiverr. Just buy from the BSTs of this forum, which are quite controlled and tested from mods.
     
  4. LostConnection

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    There are scammers everywhere, that's the way of life. There are scammers in politics, there are scammers in the media and there are scammers in the SEO business as well.

    But not everybody is wanting to scame you. Common sense in deciding whether or not to trust someone goes a long way.

    And just so you know, BHW is one of the safest places to buy SEO services from. This ain't no Fiverr.
     
  5. YoungGooner

    YoungGooner Junior Member

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    Get to know the seller first,don't rely too much on reviews because honestly everyone has his own opinions and also,reviews can be fake as u said..
    So the best way is to talk to the seller first and you will know his/her true colors.
     
  6. TrafficWizard

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    Thats IM ! We need to hype things up a bit so there will be a lot of talking about it more traffic and in the end more downloads/sells etc

    About scamms etc. it's part of community there are good guys and there are bad guys - I can assure you making up a good idead/product that sells is hard ! If there could be an easy way we wouldn't need this forum !
     
  7. AMCrarity

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    I always ask myself "What is the other guy trying to get out of this? What does it look like he wants? How is it different from what he says he wants?" It takes vigilance but remember to put it in the mindset that everyone thinks of themselves as the main character in their story, and they are motivated by what is important to them, and not to you.
     
  8. AMCrarity

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    So for example, I find the easiest way to get swindled is to assume the other person has obligations to fulfill his part of a bargain, or will act in the same way I would in his shoes. That's not always true. If you can see that he will be better off doing what you want him to do, and he knows it, then it's safer than praying he doesn't just take the money and run.
     
  9. SkyrocketSEO

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    First you ask about SEO and then you continue with Fiverr.....guys, Fiverr is at the bottom of the food chain (talking about "experts' there, not the site owners). When will you understand that real SEOs are not found on Fiverr selling 100K links for $5?
     
  10. reallife

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    Over the years, I've found the best way is to get to know NON-sellers who BUY services, and compare notes. That's how you get reliable information, from other people doing the same thing you are. Interested in a service but unsure? Get to know someone who's left a good review, and you'll get the real story.
     
  11. deciphers

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    My personal tip.

    Don't trust fiverr sellers even if they have a plenty of reviews. Better find someone on forum who has a lot of vouches
     
  12. john1444

    john1444 Elite Member

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    It pays to know what you want or make a little research about it and asking here and there.

    Armed with some knowledge you will most likely uncover any evil plot or amateurs.

    Not easy though.
     
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    Buy service from those people who can define his service.
     
  14. JoeMongan

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    Bad advice and let me tell you why...
    98% of excellent service sellers will not do work before payment, however any desperate
    individual with little on the ball will do the work in hopes you pay him. So with this business
    model you are scouting out people who are not professionals + sellers who do work first
    before accepting payment are screwed a lot.

    -RK
     
  15. nameless7

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    Totally agree. No one works without prepayment. So it's always a little bit risky, but "nothing ventured, nothing gained"
     
  16. superstar55

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    Don't buy before they show you examples of their work.

    Its gambling you can win or lose
     
  17. MNICMB

    MNICMB Newbie

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    You need 2-3 good site references, ask teh SEO company to produce a list of sites/owners you can talk to and call a few of them up.
     
  18. SkylerJarman

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    I really like taking the time to build a relationship with each of my clients, honestly. I find myself on the phone with some of my clients for hours on end. Personally, I have heard a lot of great stories and had some good times while I am working on their stuff. Then Again, I offer a lot of things most other SEO specialists don't. Listing a few GREAT reasons off the top of my head why I never would jeopardize my name... I make my own hours and have the ability to do whatever I need. It's also allowed me to care for my 19 month old son who lives with me as I am a single full time father.

    I wouldn't sacrifice any of those things. The thought of going back to working normal hours honestly makes me cringe. I would much rather provide quality services and provide full refunds to defend my name if a client wasn't satisfied. Than risk being a robot slaving my life away.

    Whoever you are doing business with always look into their background you can tell a lot about people just over the phone. If there are bad reviews or good reviews. A few things to check and look into, now this doesn't mean you are still 100% safe. Another good tip to remember would be, you get what you pay for. If it sounds to good, it probably is.