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How can so many people in 2015 not realize Data=Money

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Capo Dei Capi, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. Capo Dei Capi

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    I was on another website, and someone is calling me a retard because I was talking about data = money. How with so many news articles about Big Data can people still be oblivious to the fact that data is basically money? The funniest part is the guy claims to be in the telecom industry, yet can't even understand the relationship between increased internet speed and money.
     
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    yeah, except the data, you need the way to make money using the date

    anyway, you need the data first!
     
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    What kind of data we talking?
     
  4. Capo Dei Capi

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    All kinds of Data is money, some is just more valuable than others.
     
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    "Marketing Without Data is Like Driving With Your Eyes Closed" - Dan Zarrella
     
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    People who don't believe that data is money should just take a look at for how much $ Facebook bought WhatsApp.
     
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    The guy you're arguing with sounds like he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about lol
     
  8. Capo Dei Capi

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    Its so many high profile cases like that, that should have made it common knowledge by now. Also all the high profile hacking cases, where millions of people have their information taken.

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/2015/06/10/3832125/warning-came-too-late-for-millions.html
     
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    Duuuude some people even think that money is data......maaaaan
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  10. mickyfu

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    So you are saying if I double my Internet speed, I will make double money?
     
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  11. Capo Dei Capi

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    With faster internet speed you will be able to carry out more projects and/or scale up current projects.
     
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  12. mickyfu

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    It really depends on the kind of work you are doing. Maybe if you are running loads of bots.
     
  13. Capo Dei Capi

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    But you can use the internet speed and other components(ram,cpu ability) to do various types of works. If I have a 1Gbps upload connection only maxed out to 250Mbps running bots, it means I have an extra 750Mbps left over for various projects.
     
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    Still depends on what you are doing. Say your income comes from Ppc alone, you have no need to have a really fast connection.
     
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    Dude, you don't need to go to another forum for that, we can do that for you here. j/k
     
  16. EarthIsSmall

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    I know a guy working for a UK CPA advertiser.

    They sell the full valid email submit (including ZIP, phone etc) for about 5$ per person per partner. And usually have 10-15 partners available, and ready to but.

    The cpa payout for UK today is about 1$. Means they make about 50$ is they would sell it out fully.
    So, they pay for data only.
     
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    Telecom business is full of retards. Has this guy ever heard of data-analists? Are we all checking our Analytics to improve our websites to make more money? Do we split test and analyze our data for improvements? Does Google use our data to show us targeted ads?
    Ofcourse data is money, use it the right way and you can earn money.
     
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  18. Capo Dei Capi

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    If someone is just okay with one source of income than a faster isn't needed. But I'm looking at IM in a different way as just data acquisition,processing and putting back out.

    Instead of just focusing on a single method itself, I'll be focusing on the ability of each computer I get and how much IM projects I can do with it. My long term goal is to get to a 14U private rack from an entry level professional vps.