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How can I find out if someone is selling real views, not bot hits?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by luke82817, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. luke82817

    luke82817 Regular Member

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    Yeah so I'm trying to buy real traffic for my youTube video. I found a guy and he says he doesn't use bots (which is good). Problem is how can I prove to myself that these are real and not bot? Is there a video I could send them to and look at the results to determine if they are real or not? Or is there another way?

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    In terms of youtube... why does it matter..., youtube cant tell a real person from a bot so i think you will be hard pressed to.

    unless you want real views so they will rate / comment / favorite / subscribe... but yeah your not going to be able to tell the difference from bot to real.
     
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    really? I thought people were saying youTube is starting to crack down on bot views? I've heard of videos getting banned due to automation (even though the views:comments:ratings:favorites ratio looks real). Is this because all the comments are subscribers are from new accounts or something?

    Couldn't youTube backtrack through proxies to see that they are all going to 1 ip?
     
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    I dont really know who is talking about them cracking down on the automation, i havent seen it at all.

    They will delete vids if you use copyright content and monetize it with some CPA offer and they see that and the vid gets really popular...

    The have been cracking down on sexually related videos but this is not a automation thing its a youtube wants to be more family friendly thing...

    They are changing their code like normal to screw up automation programs but thats nothing new...
     
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    Anyone looking to sell you youtube views is selling bot views. Dont fall for it. I mean anyone can say their real homans but we all know thats BS.
     
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    I hope you're right. But I don't think all people who sell traffic to youtube videos are using bots.. Probably most of em.
     
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    Each and everyone is using a bot.
     
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    how do you know? If you can find some1 that directs converting traffic to your site, why can't you find some1 that will convert similar traffic to your youTube vid?

    And so youTube doesn't have the resources to backtrack through proxy hits?
     
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    You aren't going to find this for the price other youtube views are selling for thats for sure.
     
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    So basically any1 selling YT views for say $50 / 100 000 is obviously using bots?

    LoL i like how the 2 threads I started with 2 different questions are like talking about almost the same thing lol.
     
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    I guess I could just find a program that tracks ip addresses of visitors. If I order 5k in one day and they are mostly unique then im happy. They are either real or he has a shitload of proxies. Either way.
     
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    stupiddumbass BANNED BANNED

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    I agree anyone selling youtube views for that price is using a bot. you know what, for that amount of convert able views your gonna be a millionaire. lol Your better off running the youtube bots on them and just letting it grow organically.
     
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    Its a bot!! with aload of proxys so it looks like a number of viewers
     
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    well if he uses like 1k proxies daily then id still be happy i guess. As long as youTube can't ban me..
     
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    Is there a site that I can send the traffic to to see all the different IP's that he uses? Because if I can find out that he's using a ton of proxies then ill be just as happy :). Any1 have a site that has an ip tracker that I can send the traffic to? Or could I set up an ip tracker on a freewebs site and just send it there? Thanks for your help!
     
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    Just setup a page with google analytics and you can see all visitor info.
     
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    would youtube insight work the same? Do I basically look at the difference between unique views and actual views so see how many ip's are being used? I figure that low unique views means users are watching it over and over right, so that might mean less proxies are used?

    Or is google analytics better? ANyways I boosted a video up 75k views a while back and im looking at youTube insight, and the unique views are barely below the actual views.. but i only used like 100 proxies and i boosted it like 20k per day. wtf lol

    Am I missing something here? Thanks