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How can a site have 15k backlinks that google recognizes and still only be pr 5?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by flaktrak, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. flaktrak

    flaktrak Power Member

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  2. nikoman

    nikoman Regular Member

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    Is that your site?
    The Pagerank is a logarithm value. The more pagerank you want to get harder will be to get. Passing from PR5 to PR6 is hard. Moreover, you need good damn links which passes pagerank.
     
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    Yes, it's strange. They have millions of backlinks according to Yahoo Explorer.
    I guess they got their PR manually adjusted by Google for selling backlinks ;)
     
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    nikoman Regular Member

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    I have a site with only 700 backlinks and it has a PR6. This is a matter of quality not quantity.
     
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    No.
    Flaktrak gave a sample site, it's phpBB forum official site, along with phpbb.org
     
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    I would imagine it depends a whole heck of a lot on the competition ahead of you
     
  7. nikoman

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    This has nothing to do with competition, but the quality of the backlinks that the site has.

    PhpBB is a forum platform right? I imagine most of those links comes from site footers.
     
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    yousefgreat Regular Member

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    I have a website with 24,000 links (10,000+ quality links with homepage links only) and alexa is 43,000, yet PR1....

    Who cares about PR!

    I have shitty websites at PR4 anyways
     
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    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

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    If you have like 7 PR 4 linking to you, then you most likely will be a PR 4 the next time google updates pagerank.

    If you have like 6-10 PR 6 linking to you, then you most likely will be a PR 5 - PR 6, the next time google updates page rank.

    It all depends on how many high page rank links are linking to your site, how many outbound links they have, and if they are do-follow or not if you are concerned only about page rank.
     
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    Who cares, its page rank. I have a site with 24K home page links thats page rank 0.

    It ranks for its keywords and brings in profit. Thats the measure of success not PR.

    -aReJay
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    I will give an example of how PR is basically worthless in determining a websites value.

    1) My main website, has 40,000 links to it, from PR0 to PR7. My website is PR0.
    2) I set up a .info domain, and build 1 link to it. It instantly became a PR3.

    How? I made a .info domain which was the "source" for a wikipedia entry. 1 link from wikipedia instantly made me pr3. The average authority of the sites linking to you will determine your PR.
     
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    flaktrak Power Member

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    Yeah I know all this.. I have a PR 2 ranks 1 for 1mill search per month keyword. However under me is a pr7 pr6 and a few pr 5's . I am not interested in rankings here. What I am saying is that with that many google qualified backlinks pr5 is way to small. This is an exercise in trying to understand the PR algorithm more than trying to rank my site
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    You rank #1 for a site with 1 million searches per month on your main keyword and you are wasting your time with this? Wut.

    PR isn't based on the NUMBER of links alone, it is based on the number of high authority websites pointing to your website, and probably also a ratio of high authority to low authority websites linking to it.
     
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    Yeah my interest is SEO and working out what does what. Income is not my issue. I dont even make most of my income from that site. The bulk of the money I make is from premium sms and this has nothing to do with ranking in google. Like I said SEO is what I love to think about and I noticed a link to phpbb.com at the bototm of one of my forums and thought wow that must have some rank. Low and behold it didn't really have as much as I thought.
     
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    treyjunkin Newbie

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    I think it also takes time for them to move up the PR rankings. I think they do it quarterly. Also high PR domains count exponentially more than pr0 sites.
     
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    Here is a random example:
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    http://www.guardkit.com/  PR5/700 backlinks
    
    http://www.martialarm.com/  PR4/6,000 backlinks
    
    You could use those as examples in your research. They both have fairly similar niche which is martial arts gear. You could look into their backlinks, their registration dates etc.
     
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  17. flaktrak

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    phpbb.com has no problem ranking in serps.. it is always in the top 10 if not top 5 for keywords like "forum software" and outranks vbulletin in almost every keyword I checked. PR just seems to be more smoke and mirrors from big G. I love watching the PR number go up! but these days it really only means little!
     
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    I have to a agree with most of the people on the post, who cares
    about PR if you rank well
     
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    I think mozRank is far more accurate in terms of importance and traffic than page rank. I have a PR4 site with only 100 backlinks from 24 domains including "musicmoz.org (dmoz.org for musicians) and it does not have traffic at all, it shows a mozRank of 1. On the other hand I have a well stablished PR1 affiliate site with 2000 links from 1000 domains and gets a lot of traffic and profit. It shows a mozRank of 5. For those that do not know what mozRank is, mozRank is a ranking system created by seomoz.org, very similar to pagerank (it goes 0 to 10 too). Pretty accurated in my opinion. However, they are not Google.
     
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    I have a 27K baclinks site which is PR0 and
    I have a 3 backlinks site which is PR6
    Stop worrying about your PR and start working on your SERP...
     
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