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How big a deal is anchor text ratio for tier 1 really ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by obeselizard, Jun 28, 2015.

  1. obeselizard

    obeselizard Regular Member

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    Really this is only a question for tier 1 anchor text ratio. I have seen people say that even if you have great tier 1 backlinks with lots of decent juice from tier 2 and 3 that your keywords still might not hit page 1 because of lacking anchor text variety in tier 1. How true is that ? and to what extent ? They say that in this scenario you might be at page 2 for all your keywords but somehow never quite get to page 1. I was wondering how true that was. Please continue reading to see my specific scenario.

    I have a webpage I just finished a 3 tier backlink project for and all the keywords are on the top of page 2 in Google for the most part with not much major movement going on, (although one keyword hit position 8 today on page 1 and it's the highest traffic of these keywords I'm aiming for) and I'm trying to figure out if the lack of movement onto page 1 is from lack of anchor text variation on tier 1 or just a matter of needing more tier 1 links with more juice to them (these are really low comp easy keywords btw). For this webpage my tier 1 is comprised of like 35ish or so web2.0s so far where my top 5 highest anchor text % on ahrefs are showing up as 17%, 10%, 10%, 10%, 10% (I'm guessing that's a little high). So should I start sending a few dozen contextual links to this page with only generic/naked URL anchor text to bring these percentages down, and then maybe that will be the magic sauce I need to bring me onto page 1 ? Or maybe I just need to wait a little longer for Google to take effect ?

    Also I have a 1+ year old small website that I have not really done anything with, but I checked it on ahrefs recently and to my surprise it was showing exactly 1k backlinks so I guess at some point I sent some test links or something to it, dont remember. Now usually I never have just one anchor text I'm trying to rank it's usually at least a few if not up to a dozen which are all related long tails basically or variations that get search results. Example like "buy blue cars" "buy cheap blue cars" "rent cheap blue cars" "rent cheap blue cary easily" ect.

    So ahrefs showed that my single highest anchor text for this other year old webpage as 12% would that be considered to high ? Right now the webpage is ranking basically every keyword I'd like to try for on the second page of Google, but this will really be meaningless unless I get to the top half of page 1 being they are pretty low traffic keywords. So before I start doing any work on this other page I was curious If I should try to bring down the percentages also. Because basically these 1k of backlinks are made up of 12 different anchor text variations or so (meaning very little generic/url anchor text). Which brings up another question what if I have tons of anchor text variation like no more than 3% for any given anchor text but ALL my anchor texts use the word "car" in it somewhere let's say, is that bad ? Because of a repeating word, even though the anchor text is technically different ?

    Anyway I hope you guys could give me to info/experiences on this.
     
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    Penumbra Power Member

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    I didn't read this long post but just don't repeat anchors and u are golden.
     
  3. obeselizard

    obeselizard Regular Member

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    Yeah I no the lower the better but would a top 17% anchor going down to say 4% change me going to page 2 to page 1 ?
     
  4. obeselizard

    obeselizard Regular Member

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    Anyone else have any experiences with anchor text %s moving keyword rankings up or down ? I'm in the process right now of trying to lower all my percentages showing up for tier 1 and waiting to see any results.
     
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    Zexie Newbie

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    I barely understood anything in this post but i would like to see it solved anyway, bump. ( I would also like to know what backlink tiers, anchor, and anchor % is)
     
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    whiteblackseo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Its so important its over 9000.
     
  7. Zexie

    Zexie Newbie

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    Just like people did in your thread, useless posts aren't helpful...
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I am interested to know this as well.
    I am working on a site at the moment, I am trying to rank 3 keywords and percent of direct anchor text are as follows (According to majestic SEO):

    Keyword 1:2.6%
    Keyword 2:7.1%
    Keyword 3:1.4%

    Ranking is bouncing around a bit but right now the only one showing in the serps is keyword 2 @ 7.1% all 3 keywords have had similar links built to them so it makes me think that 7% direct anchor text provides a better chance of ranking than 1-2%....

    Interested to hear anyone elses opinions......
     
  9. onlineonly

    onlineonly Power Member

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    I'm actually testing this now on one of my websites. Most keywords on this website have been stuck on page 2 for a long time after building over 20 strong PBN links.

    I suspect it might have to do with anchor text %, even though I only use same anchor one time most of my anchors are "keyword" related somehow. So today I changed most links from keyword anchors to brand links instead and It should be interesting to see what kind of serp movments I get.
     
  10. Scritty

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    Anchor text is a bitch. However the smart money is to keep any one phrase below 4% id you have under 1000 links and under 2% if you have over 1000 links.

    HOWEVER...

    Relevant supporting anchors work these days.
    So - if you want to rank for "mobile phone" (and no-one in their right mind probably does - so it's a safe example to use)

    then having "mobile phone" at 2-4% is golden
    Then have
    "cell"
    "3g"
    "4g"
    "network"
    "selfie"
    "Samsung"

    ...and words like that to support the idea that the page you are linking to is on this topic.

    Remember to have a good percentage of naked anchors and a good percentage of generic anchors as well (these 2 should easily be the bulk)
    Support this with decent on page content and surround your inbound links with content that supports the whole thing and adds relevance and context.


    Scritty
     
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