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How Bad Can Some People Get At Business

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by macdonjo3, Mar 30, 2011.

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  1. macdonjo3

    macdonjo3 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    So I PMed some guy on WF to get info on his programming service. He replied saying:

    So here I am, withing a few grand in my hand, ready to spend, he wants me to write up in some special application of what I want.
    Now, if I did the same thing, but instead walked into a professional retailer like, oh i dont know... Best Buy? and then said "I need a laptop". Would they ever consider getting me to write out a form of what they want because they are too lazy to remember what I told them already? No, they'd rush me to the back of the store and find a laptop and get my money right away.

    I can't believe how some people conduct their business.... :S
     
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    Fill out his form, but use strange terminology like...

    "i want a ding dong to connect to a zoopla and automatically wilmo my modee to an uessu"
     
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    fuck it send me his details and i'll send him 50 request for a custom scrammer bot
     
  4. DigitalGangster

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    You know a lot of developers are feared of doing work and not getting paid for. Look at it from his point of view not just yours bro.
     
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    He's just being organized..
     
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    I can see his point in wanting you to fill out his form, but his tone in the email is completely cold and supercilious to the point of arrogance. I wouldn't work with him just based on his shitty attitude.
     
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    Reminds me of, "It's exactly what I asked for, but it's not what I wanted"
     
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    I'd stay away.. The tone is very strange..
    But it's the warriorforum so... You know.
     
  9. snap2

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    I'm also increasingly seeing that these days where a service provider seems to think that even though you'd be paying him for his service, that in actual fact he will 'interview you' and decide if you can work with him!!! Usually these guys don't last the pace as they won't get repeat custom if they get the custom in the first place! I don't think it has anything to do with protecting himself as most won't work without some form of advance payment agreement or stage payments which is entirely right unless they are in a freelancer site with the elements of protection that sometimes affords.

    Even if he wished to have a proposal worksheet completed which is fair enough in certain instances, he could have presented the reasons, worded it and 'packaged' it a lot better to encourage you to see his point and entice you on board as a customer rather than a ......fill this out and then I might talk to you approach and if you don't like it you know where to go...... which to me, I wouldn't waste my time trying to work with a guy who took that attitude off the bat.
     
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    It is called a functional specification and is pretty common in serious software development. It's purpose is to avoid the constant changes some clients ask for by helping them make up their mind right from the start. It is also very useful for SEO service providers since it eliminates the familiar 'yeah but I thought you meant that...'

    Whether this guy actually has the standing to ask for something like this is an entirely different thing. It shows that the provider either actually has a clue or tries hard to imitate good professionals :)
     
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    Asking for the specs is what he should do...

    the way he finished it off with a maybe i'm not the guy for the job is almost like
    he is trying to kill the deal.
     
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    The guy's hands are full. If not, he would have jumped at whatever you wanted to offer. Another thing is that people like that could be very difficult to work with. Just get someone at a freelance site and you would get the same job done.
     
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    He obviously doesn't want your business so move on... It is a shame, but there are other people that will be interested in providing customer service as well as the service for you.