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How Adult Affiliate Programs Fuck You Over

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by nudebrain, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. nudebrain

    nudebrain BANNED BANNED

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    There are a few "dangerous" thing that you have to know about xxx programs.

    Be very selective about adult sponsor programs and investigate them
    with the following questions and strategies as a lot of them cheat you,
    and you cant use for example cookiestuffer to intervent what they do!

    I will give you one example of a sponsor that does not work, and
    we might add a list of sponsors here over time.

    FreakBucks.com is a sponsor where cookie stuffing will not work.

    Why?

    1. They use URL-tracking which means if you use your affiliate ID code
    URL the reference for making a sale is in that URL only.

    2. If a visitor does go to the main adult URL without your coding he
    will end up at one of those traditional ENTER or LEAVE pages.

    However: those pages are not mainly designed to "protect minors",
    but rather discredit you as affiliate. In the case above it simply
    leads with a special coded URL to their inhouse affiliate account
    and you will earn nothing.

    (This is especially difficult if you use pictures for picture
    galleries which have the URL branded into them!)

    3. Even some cookie based systems will not track your sales if
    you open the raw adult site URL in the same browser.

    4. If you are using a NATS based adult affiliate program, make sure
    that you use the direct links offered inside the program and do not
    use any deeplinks (like a link that shows up when you click on your
    original affiliate link in order to link your traffic to another landing page).

    5. To use a smart cloaking strategies that will not reveal the landing
    URL to prevent brand bleeding (brand bleeding = the customer sees the BRAND,
    i.e. the main real internet domain for a porn site) or to redirect your
    clients to your own landing page and still being able to set a cookie
    use this program (xxxx linked out - contact me personally for that link)


    MUST DO CHECK LIST FOR ADULT AFFILIATE PROGRAMS

    1. Is the program cookie based?

    2. Ask the affiliate manager how long the cookie lasts and what happens
    if someone types in the raw URL, if it gets directed to their own inhouse
    account (if they refuse to answer or give you "I dont know what you are
    talking about" response, dont use them)

    3. Do your own blind tests if necessary and buy a trial account access
    using the strategy to open your affiliate link first then open another
    tab in the same browser with the RAW URL

    4. Ask for a better affiliate cut - most affiliate programs will offer
    a better payout if you ask them. If they want to do that only after
    send them referrals, tell them that you have enough sponsors on your list
    that are willing to pay you $40 no matter what.

    5. Do NOT trust what is being said on adult webmasters forums, most forums
    just exist for the sole purpose of signing up webmasters for their programs
    and the owners of the forums get paid for referrals. Adult forums are sometimes helpful to find helpful people and to network, HOWEVER: you will rarely get any real strategies or tips in the PUBLIC posts, you have to communicate with people IN PRIVATE in order to find out the real deals and to get some tips that actually work (remember: there is no such thing as a free lunch!)
     
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  2. ShazzMan

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    I can list dozens that screw you over.
     
  3. nudebrain

    nudebrain BANNED BANNED

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    then please do so and provide details!
     
  4. razohad

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    can you list one that wont?
     
  5. nudebrain

    nudebrain BANNED BANNED

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    That is exatcly that kind of posts here on black hat world that nobody needs.
    Either TALK or SHUT UP. if you just post posts to gather points or gain reputation, leave it!
     
  6. ShazzMan

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    Sorry ..try again

    Ask nicely and I will pm you the info. Others did!!!
     
  7. nudebrain

    nudebrain BANNED BANNED

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    its a forum, gods sake! besides we cant post affiliate links and need to ask people to contact us for specific information, YOUR post was mentioning that you know something but dont want to share it. so its a typical incomplete post that has the same value as a "thank you post".

    if you dont want to share it, dont post it. I dont have time to chase phantoms.
     
  8. cypionate

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    You seem mad? :)


    Here are a couple...

    AFF - They take your traffic and if they find the smallest inconsistency with how your traffic is being generated they can you. They will not send your affiliate link to a "This affiliate link is no longer valid" page... They keep directing your affiliate link at their site, receive the traffic, let you see the stats, and tell you to fuck off.

    HUGETRAFFIC - Wow, they used to be the hottest in the business. Up until about 6 months ago when they started shaving the balls off ya! Oh, and although they might "agree" with the type of traffic you are sending, one day out of the blue they will say "oh we can't pay you anymore for that traffic", ban you account, and you don't get paid anymore... oh... and did I mention all those leads you sent to them that should convert for the next couple months... oh those are gone and they don't give a shit.

    There are more out there that have their own tactics on shaving and screwing you. I could go on with a few others, but those are the two that have pissed me off and dicked me the wrong way in the past.

    There are some great ones out there that convert great with the right type of traffic. It's all just trial and error..

    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
  9. nudebrain

    nudebrain BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks for that. I can agree on both of them, especially HugeTraffic was quite useless for me and didnt convert a thing.

    And if you think i am mad - I am always mad of people abusing forums and not contributing value directly into the thread they are posting to. Like "hey I have just found a new method for making money with INSERTFAKEPRODUCTNAME. But I am not going to tell you, just wanted to share to make you wonder." Nothing wrong with asking people to contact you privately if you have some links you are not allowed to post here or you dont wont to share publicly, but there are too many posts here that pollute the forum with giving no information whatsoever and just keeps people distracted.
     
  10. cypionate

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    Yeh... HugeTraffic pissed me off to be honest. I was actually on the phone with their main account manager in a pretty heated discussed... Long story short. I made that company a crapload of money with the traffic I sent them over the past couple years and in the end they treated me like sh!t. At least I got a couple free ipods for Christmas from them... lol...

    Nah... I was just messing with ya on the mad part bro. I was actually LMAO when I read your thread. It's funny how people kinda think they know something, but don't wanna say it... If you know something and don't wanna say it - well then just keep it to yourself in the first place.

    I can go on and on about various adult programs that shave you and exactly what their shave tactics are. Some are legit tho - well maybe 2 of them are... lol.

    Cyp

     
  11. mazzim

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    i believe NETPONDCASH is one that claims to Never do all that crap with their webmasters ! unless someone else knows better.
     
  12. ShazzMan

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    Check out sponsorchat. There is an area that has good and bad affiliates
     
  13. ShazzMan

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    Hugetraffic isn't doing to hot lately. And AFF is a no no in the adult biz.