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How accurate is google keyword diagnostics?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by brok3n, May 24, 2012.

  1. brok3n

    brok3n BANNED BANNED

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    I'm looking up related keywords in my niche that and I've found about 10 individual variations with exact matches that are "673,000" monthly, but every single keyword is that exact number.

    Is this just a general estimated number based on long term statistics? Are these accurate?
    I'm wondering if these could possibly be false positives? The same way PR will show up as false.

    Thanks.
     
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    It's not.

    1) It's out of date - using data from up to 11 months ago.
    2) It normalizes all the data.

    I've used it many times. Local search volume 3,500 per month - got to number 1 for the term locally, and got 13,000 a month just on that term from local sources.
    Again global search volume 55,000 (For a product aimed at English speaking markets) - got to number 2 on UK, USA and several other Google national sites - got less than 30 visits a month for the term.

    Adsense figures are also "to cock"

    Estimated CPA 15p
    Start a campaign and £1.00 is still "Below first page bid"

    IMO, other than the most basic of keyword research, the tool is a total crock of shit
     
  3. brok3n

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    ok, so is there something more accurate then?
     
  4. Anfield

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    Try google insights. It's much more accurate. I use both, keyword tool plus insights, this way it's much easier to choose a right keyword.
     
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    Alright, so that insights site doesn't really show me much except a graff, and the numbers it gives seems irrelevant?

    What I really need to know is, when it' gives me the number 670k, is that a FALSE number for any reason?
    I could care less if it's 50-200k OFF because of the fact that it's a normalized number.

    What I want to know is, is there ANY way it could really only be a search for like 3,000 and showing that amount as a false positive.


    Please let me know, because I'm registering domains with the keywords, and purchasing services for high quality tiers, and I don't want to waste my time and money.
     
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    I'm just glad Google gives us estimates. I remember in the past when they would just give a bar graph.

    I've compared AdWords impressions to the keyword tool data and I've found it to be about 80% accurate. It gives a rough estimate of what to expect. Keep in mind that Google will display the Average traffic a keyword received for each month of the year. So if the keyword gets 100,000k searches/month Jan-June, and 0 searches/month July-Dec; Google will display 50,000k local searches/month.

    Remember, some keywords are "trend" keywords that are more popular in certain times of the year than others. For example the keyword [grow tomatoes] gets 10k local searches per month, yet it is searched close to zero from late summer to winter (out of growing season).

    Cliffs:
    - Google will not show how many searches a keyword gets each month, it only shows an average of all the months.
    - You have to see monthly keyword trends using Google Insights or the bar graph next to the keyword in the keyword tool.
     
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  7. brok3n

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    hey, so can someone confirm that the results that are coming up, aren't false positives? The same way that PR can be a false positive for like a PR 3, and it ends up not being an actual PR 3?

    google insights shows a solid graff over the past 3 years. But I'm wondering if it's a large number, or say just a false 3k?
     
  8. brok3n

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    ?????