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How about some realism?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Lazanon, May 26, 2016.

  1. Lazanon

    Lazanon Newbie

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    Hello fellas.
    Let's put all the self promoting, sugar coating aside for a minute. I mean, let's be honest, most of the methods posted here are merely a way for OP to get more refs for whatever ridiculous affiliate program he is working for, or sneakily trying to push his product, AND it is fine, really! In fact most of the time it is pretty amusing to watch OP try to appear honest and real. Of course there's nothing wrong with trying to make money, but trying to fool the most tech-savvy online community? Tsk tsk tsk.

    Anyway, could we, in this thread, discuss real methods to make money online and be realistic about it? I.e.; without any ridiculous exaggerations like "$10K A DAY NO EFFORT NO INVESTMENTS".

    Okay, I can hear you say "you go first then!", I'll start.
    I'll share a method that I used to use between summer 2013 and winter 2015. I don't see any reason why it should not work today. In fact, I'll get back to it soon. I doubt that any of you will become a competitor of mine since I'm using this method for a country that lies in middle of nowhere, so here it is.

    Basically;
    - Create an "Add Me" Facebook group
    - Get it popular with at least 30k members (new members start pouring in after a certain level)
    - Create a fake bimbo female account with hot pics, make it look real and update daily until you sell it (about 1 week)
    - Post "add me" in your group with the hottest pic and sticky the post (so that you get friends faster)
    - Accept the friendship requests daily
    - With 50k horny dudes in the group and hot enough pics it shouldn't take more than a week for 5k friends
    - Sell the 5k friended bimbo account for $$ or turn it into a fan page if you have bigger goals
    - profit

    The hard part is getting 50k members for the group, but once you manage to do that you are set for good. Each account should take no more than 1 hour in total from its birth to sale. I had 3 huge groups (+100k members) and sold about 6 accounts a week for $10 per. Between $200 and $300 a month with not much effort. Plus, I sold the groups for nearly a grand in total at the end of my FB journey so that was a nice farewell gift too. There's nothing too hard about this job (except getting a hard-on due to all those hot pics) and is very doable. You can also scale it for more gains $_$

    My train of thought works pretty weird, so I expect some of you to not understand some parts of this method. Ask and I'll answer.



    Please post about real methods that you have personally tried and found to be successful, it doesn't have to be a gold mine, $10 a month is fine, as long as it is real; do share. Links to your method threads are welcome.
     
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  2. KenCanitano

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    the hardest part is to create a group with 30k members.. do you have any suggestion?
     
  3. TheArtfulDodger2012

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    Frankly, that's a pretty lame method. $200-$300 a month isn't going to change anybody's life. I have been frequenting these forums for the past dozen years or so, under various user id's and I can tell you that I have yet to find a single money-making idea posted that was worth a damn. The great majority of the people in here are either clueless or they're living in a land of wishful thinking where they believe if they post that they're making $3,000 a month with some scheme then it will actually come true.

    I agree with you in that respect. That these forums could be put to better use. Here is my suggestion:

    Discuss the PRINCIPLES that govern successful methods, without necessarily revealing those methods. Discuss HOW you arrived at the answer (assuming that you actually DID arrive at an answer, one that works and that you're not just another lame wannabe).

    Here, I'll start.

    A few years ago, I devised a method that brings in $650 a day in PPL to dating offers. Sure, the leads are no good and you will eventually be asked to stop sending them. I even got a cease and desist letter from an attorney once. Got to keep the money tho. A few days ago I posted a question as to the best way to hide referral links and was guided to a newish product that does exactly what I needed. So I fired the method up again and it's earning for me.

    What guided me to the solution? I simply asked myself the following questions:

    1. what do people search the internet for more than anything else? answer: porn.
    2. how can I use this to my advantage selling dating site referrals? answer: link the filling out of a free trial to receiving something they desperately want.

    In my case, I was promising them passwords to premium porn sites. The search terms "free porn passwords" or "free BangBros password" get a lot of hits each month.

    Interestingly tho, putting up R-rated porn videos of Lisa Ann etc. resulted in a lot of views but zero $$$. This told me that one must be specific in targeting people who are actively searching for what you're offering. Not just porn hounds looking for a short-term jerk off.

    In short, marketing online is simple:

    1. find a hungry crowd; then
    2. give them what they want.

    The tricky part is linking what they want to your offer so that it ends up being a win-win.

    If you actually give them what they want, then it's white hat.
    If you leave them twisting in the wind, then it's black hat.

    But getting back to the point of this post, it would be nice to see PRINCIPLES discussed here. Abstract templates. Then we can all devise our own spins on the details.
     
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  4. Henry04

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    @TheArtfulDodger2012

    Well what you describe there is a scheme to fraud affiliate networks and users, booth in the same way, to make them think they get something from you. I don't see how this is a method for a long-term business.
     
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  5. Datias

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    That's a pretty straightforward method. But it seems like a lot of work for not a lot of money. Or at least compared to my cost of living.

    Unlike theartfuldodger, I joined this forum because it's full of useful advise, if you know what you're looking for. And you're smart enough to know how to apply it at the right time.

    Making good money isn't a hard thing to do really. But you should really learn how to specialize in a certain aspect of marketing and grow from there.

    The methods I use aren't blackhat, and usually require a lot of upfront work to get paid. But, they pay very well once they take off. I learned Internet marketing from here, books at my local library, and MOOC's from various universities. Along with googles analytics course and hubspots inbound marketing course. And I use that for 2 main money making streams.

    1. Calling/emailing businesses and telling them why they should be advertising online. And what type of results I can get for them. Then I charge a monthly fee to take care of all there IM needs. It's pretty easy and it only takes a few hours a week to set up a good campaign, then just daily monitoring and slight adjustments.

    2. This one is quickly growing and is going to be my main source of income later in the year. I contact people with eCommerce or service websites (or they contact me) and we work out a deal for me to do all the front end stuff (marketing, sales, UX/UI (I can't actually do much coding but I know what makes a good sales site, mostly thanks to blackhat ;) )) for a percentage of the sales.

    I don't spend very much money and I keep my cost of living low. I don't really care about being flashy, I want to make the most of my early 20's and stack bread as quickly as possible in order to make bigger deals and obtain more assets to leverage later in life. So basically all of the money I make (after I pay bills and buy food n' stuff) goes right back into investing to further those marketing efforts.

    If everything goes according to plan I'll be making $80,000+ by the end of this year. Which is a huge improvement to the $0 I made last year. haha
     
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  6. Sombrero

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    All methods here are fake. No way we are making money. Is that the answer you are looking for?
     
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  7. CeaseFireBlack

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    yes, bcoz making a 50k members group is so fuckin easy
     
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  8. Sombrero

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    I honestly made money of ALL METHODS I PUT ENOUGH EFFORT. The ones I failed was due to my incompetence not the method itself.
     
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  9. Datias

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    Exactly, it's not the method, it's the person putting it top use. A sniper rifle is of no use to someone who can't use it. A particle accelerator is just a pile of wires and bits to anyone who can't utilize it.

    If you want to make money you'll find a way one way or another. All of my failures have been due to my own laziness.
     
  10. Lazanon

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    About the income of my method being low to your standards, that really depends on where you live and your lifestyle. I assume you guys are from the US, let me remind you that there are countries like Ukraine where average income is $200 a month. So it is good money for some people.


    Thanks for the lead Dodger I'll try to come up with a proper way to capitalize on that myself.


    Datias, good game man, contacting local businesses wouldn't work for me here but I can imagine how lucrative it could be in a developed community. I've read about some guys personally knocking on doors as well, great stuff.



    here's what I did;

    Create a fake hot girl account, join about 10 popular "add me" groups a day
    Post on those groups daily (don't spam) and grow your account organically this way
    Once you hit the limit of max 5k friends, invite them all to your group
    Repeat

    ^ technically you can do this all the way up to 50k, but it can be maddening so you can stop when you hit 10-15k, after that point people will join at their own will anyway. Like I said the beginning is pretty hard, but you can create multiple groups and invite those people to them too, and it kinda snowballs itself. Once you have the initial crowd, it's on.


    >if you try to turn a cup of water into a block of gold by screaming at it and fail it is just your incompetence, the method is ok
    lol
     
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  11. soulcollector

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    People flock to $3,000 a month just bot and forget methods. All the SHIT that gets top rated is by idiots just blindly thanking and moving on. They don't try the method, and those that do 90% fail because the method is shit.

    If we all want to be quite blunt and honest, only a few methods will work. Methods that involve capital, sales copy, etc might work depending on the quality of the product or service. These start from $0 methods are a plague as they don't work. It takes money to make money (refers to the lack of success in the journey section).
     
  12. BlogPro

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    Interesting. So essentially, everyone taking the time to drop knowledge bombs around here is doing so for affiliate income. And you are the messiah of everyone posting a realistic method?

    Come fucking on! You sold accounts with friends for $10? There goes your story...

    It is one thing to come and share your method. It is another to put down the efforts of so many others spending their time writing methods for people who have no clue where to start.

    Not cool man. Not cool.
     
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  13. karupoiss

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    For fcks sake, so much stupidity in this thread. All the fcking methods work, if you are too dumb to see the principles that make the method work or are just too fcking lazy to test your own spins on the methods then yea, nothing works. I have tried so many different things/methods here and to be honest - ALL of them have made me money, it's just my own laziness of going after the next shining thing and not going all in on a method that is responsible of me not being rich yet.
     
  14. Crockett

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    Maybe you should consider real life job then? You were born dumb,graduated school d-,then magically come to internet and want start making 3k that people spend 10 years from school to college to achieve this amount of salary,and you want without ant effort or little effort,if that was so easy nobody was going even to school.If you want fast and good money.I don't want to insult you,but ive been working on so many things I had to get rich,and life is just kicking me to the bottom,and I keep going up for it to kick me down again,still I see faith,some people has easy life,some hard,what can you do.Start singing or buy lottery tickets if you don't want to work and put all effort.
     
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  15. Lazanon

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    you should invest some of that money into reading comprehension classes lmao
     
  16. blogzandstuff

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    I find this insulting not just to me, but also other BHW members who help others on here, we call it Karma. You can help out a newbie/ experienced member without needing to promote anything, in fact anyone who does that is quickly delt with by other members and mods.
    I suggest to look up the word Community, i assume you have a dictionary and learn that belonging to a community doesn't just mean trying to make money off others.
    It's not good to insult businesses that offer legit affiliate plans either, they pay to list their programs on here.
    So you are a newbie and in one post have insulted members and businesses, then expect us to follow you like some kind of expert. you then proceed to write a long winded approach to conning people out of their hard earned money.
    No thanks i'll stick to being honest
     
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  17. JustinKowalsky

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    But also, the method he sold can be found in 2009 threads here on the forum.
     
  18. TheArtfulDodger2012

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    Nonsense. ALL of them have made you money? You're arguing semantics. Sure, if you work a method hard enough it might make you a sale or a referral commission. But do you think anybody is in here to learn how to work 10 hours a day for 6 months to make ONE sale?

    You see? THIS is exactly what I am talking about. This talk is nothing but verbal masturbation. It leads nowhere.

    And to the guy who rebukes me because what I offered will not lead to a long-term business and that it amounted to fraud? Well, all I can say is you may have stumbled into the wrong forum. And I said nothing about building a long-term business, although there are literally hundreds of dating offers to choose from worldwide. Try reading my post again and see if what I was really trying to accomplish was giving you a system. (It wasn't). You completely missed the point.
     
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  19. TayaX

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    I'm sorry but just because you didn't bank from these said methods doesn't mean they are shi*. Every pinned topic include content that will make money if you take the time to work on it.
     
  20. UptonGoodwin

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    The problem here is when you read a method shared on BHW like it's an exact science instead of taking it like a math problem. If you take a method like a math problem, you will learn the process that went into developing the method and will be able to add your own twists to the method and can make money.

    Too many people try to take a method shared here as an exact science and think all they have to do is follow it step by step. Quite often, just like your method in the OP, the person is sharing an old method that's not necessarily going to work by itself anymore. I really doubt Facebook would let you create an account and accept 5000 friend requests in a matter of hours without banning your account in 2016.