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Hosting option for a few different ideas

Discussion in 'Web Hosting' started by gibsons, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. gibsons

    gibsons Newbie

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    Hey guys,

    I have purchased several domains for different projects and I need to find a webhost. I have 2-3 ideas that are unrelated and should not be associated with each other, but I would like to avoid purchasing seperate hosting for each one, if that is an option. Is there some sort of a package deal that I can get somewhere?
     
  2. goosefrabah

    goosefrabah Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Shared hosting? Typically, there are tons of sites on shared hosting and they normally offer unlimited domain hosting.
     
  3. arstyles

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    I've been using HostGator reseller for over 4 years. And hosting almost 30 sites without any problem.
    Whichever host you choose I think reseller plans are easier to manage.
     
  4. gibsons

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    I'm new to this so I don't understand well how shared hosting works. Say for example that I take hostgator's baby plan plan, or hostnine's business plan. They say that I can have "unlimited domains", does that mean that I run two different websites under two different domain names?
     
  5. HerpDerpSlerp

    HerpDerpSlerp Power Member

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    yes you can have multiple domains on a single shared plan. You will have your main domain. mymainsite . com and then you go into cpanel->addon domains and add another domain which will be myothersite .com. It asks you to name the directory you want the site in. I simply lable them www. site name .com for easy listing in my www directory in FTP. but you can name them anything you wish. As long as you do not go over 30 (I think) processes running at one time with traffic you are fine and you need to get a fuck-load of traffic before that even happens so you will be fine.
     
  6. gibsons

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    Okay thanks for the info. But what about privacy? Say that I have the domains whoresdottcom (secret ownership, WHOIS privacy) and toysdottcom (public project), which are seperate websites and should not be associated with each other. Is it possible that toysdottcom visitors can figure out that the owner also runs whoresdottcom if they are both on the same plan?
     
  7. edwire

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    can yoiu have multiple domains with a personal IP?
     
  8. HerpDerpSlerp

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    you are asking two questions here. First, you can get what is a private whois. It comes free for a new domain registration with namecheap for the first year and like 2$ or some shit every year after that plus what it costs for domain renewals (go with namecheap)

    Now, as far as privacy is concerned with domains being linked anyone that knows anything about servers can do a whois, grab your nameservers and/or server ip and do a lookup to see ALL websites on a server. On a shared server you will be sharing a server with 100's or 1000's of people so your sites will be "hidden" around all the rest.

    Something you won't have to worry about but I do is when you are on a dedicated server. People can see my custom name severs get the server ips and find out what websites are on that server. There is also a way to track websites with adsense publisher id's (you can get that from view source) or trace your facebook fan page of your site to your personal facebook page and then figure out more personal information

    Bottom line is go with shared, get private whois and do your thing. You will have no worries. As long as you don't piss in anyone's cornflakes and not get into super competitive niches trying to get into googles 1st page (payday loans, creditcards etc) nobody will even care about looking information up. Make a site and enjoy it!
     
  9. gibsons

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    Thanks again. I have the domains that I want to use registered on namecheap and moniker. Is it worth the hassle to transfer my only moniker domain to namecheap so that they are all on the same site?

    Also, suppose that I get a lot of traffic suddenly (one can dream), my site gets on the reddit front page or something. Will it be difficult to change hosting plans to a dedicated server (will my site be down for a long time in the meantime?).
     
  10. HerpDerpSlerp

    HerpDerpSlerp Power Member

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    you can use multiple registrars it is not really an issue. Transfer them around if you own 100's sometimes you can bounce them around and get deals for transferring them. Just point all the domains regardless of where they are registered to your hosts nameservers they give you.

    Hostgator will accept close to 40,000 pageviews a day (across all sites) before they start getting pissy (this is when I ran into trouble). In cpanel on the bottom left it will say something like process's limit (or services, but I think it is process's) and you are limited to 30. once you hit 30 they shut your site down for like a minute to clear out what is bogging down the server. Then they allow people to hit your site again. If it happens over and over they suspend your account and ask you to contact them

    Just try not to use resource intensive addons (correct word?) for wordpress and talk to support about these questions if you are concerned with traffic spikes. I don't use wordpress so I am not sure on how resource intensive it is. I program my own sites and CMS

    My spike came from facebook pages. I would be getting 20k hits a day (from one site alone) from google searches but when I made a facebook post I would get 1000's a second making page requests. Hostgator eventually shut me down and I had to learn the headaches of a dedicated server and I have a few of them now.

    Don't look so far in the future. Just make a site, enjoy it and have fun. I am no server expert at all. Half the time I am calling support or asking my developers how to do things or fix things or get them to do it for me so do not panic if you run into a situation I got in. You will learn.
     
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  11. HerpDerpSlerp

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    Double post but to answer your question about transferring from shared to dedicated it is a HUGE learning curve. Forget about all that. By the time you reach that point hostgator will help you (although their servers are retarded expensive) you pay for the great service and peace of mind. My server bills alone per month 1500$ CAD but I run 3 dedicated and some shared.

    Don't go with the attitude "one can only dream". The big secret is create a site about a topic YOU enjoy. Then it is not work. It is fun. It all snowballs from there. Just be patient. I used shared for 10 years before I figured that out. One site exploded to dedicated. Took 4 months from registering, putting on shared and then dedicated. Now I have 3 sites that need their own servers. All because I ENJOY the topics of my sites.

    I don't worry about CPC and adsense. I bank hard with adsense but some CPC is like 10 cents. others higher. Dreams can come true just try not to dwell on the money aspect of it. The money will come but play by the rules (if that is what you are aiming for, if not you will still bank)

    Normally I am not this open about this shit or so communicative here however I am on about 100mgs of Ritalin trying to finish a book I am writing so you caught me at a good time :D. I am going to be up for the next week lmao
     
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  12. gibsons

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    Well I'm thankful for that ritalin, you've been very helpful. If you are still feeling open: how did you get the facebook page for your site to get so popular? Did you pester your friends all the time to like the page and it snowballed from there? Or was it all because you were offering such great value on your site?

    Also, just for curiosity's sake, do you know what the pageview cap on ninehost is? (I don't know if ninehost is any better than hostgator, but I've seen it discussed on this forum and their simple website appeals to me.)

    I am not too concerned about making money and getting big right now, I'm focused on building something like you said - and it's so incredibly fun. I wanted to be sure though that if it were to happen I did not make some mistake in the beginning that hindered me. On an off-topic note, the reason I got interested in website development is because I made friends this year with a guy who makes a stupid amount of money with his websites - and he doesn't even create any content. His websites are just directories of telephone numbers and stuff like that. I realized that I could as well try to make money myself by building websites (but I have ideas and want to generate original content). I like the idea of selling e-books, for example.
     
  13. HerpDerpSlerp

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    Sorry for the late reply. My facebook page went viral because I offered information that people wanted. (I stay away from viral lol/share this or else themes/sites). It took awhile for the facebook page to take off. The first 100 likes took the longest. I never spammed the link but I did post on similar pages as my page contributing to their audience and it grew. When the page reached 1000 likes and had good engagement I made a website and put the content there.

    That is how I treat my new sites now. Create a facebook page, do similar, get 1000 likes, make a website. The method works

    I don't use ninehost but the general rule as far as I understand is "fair use" as long as your content and traffic is not affecting other sites on the same server you should be ok. I happened to login to cpanel today of one of my servers to try to check the word I was looking for for limits but my servers do not have it. Bandwidth is another thing. Although it is "unlimited" it is still within "fair use" Just from one site alone I have used this month so far (remember it is only the 4th)

    [TR="class: row-even"] [/TR]
    Monthly Bandwidth Transfer 572,843 / ∞

    That is almost 600 gigs of bandwidth. I highly doubt that would be allowed on a shared. Again, you do not have to worry about this but it is something to keep an eye on.

    I tried selling things myself. I tried clickbank for awhile and I do not make that much. I mostly use adsense and some other 3rd party advertisements. I am sure if I really tried I could make more but I love my sites and my audience. If you have that attitude not only will you be happy money will be a side effect.

    Not saying that aiming strictly for cash is wrong. It does work, people do it here all the time. What worked for me and was less stress was share and make content you enjoy. Here is an example I did years ago but stopped so I will share it.

    I love documentaries and always watch them. I watch close to 3 or 4 a day. There is a site called topdocumentaryfilms dot c9m and I spend hours a day on there (ok not as much these days). I used to watch the documentaries and type out (by hand) really interesting information about a specific niche (Space, space time, planets) and spun it a bit (re-worded it) I made a site with this factual information and it gained traffic that is where it all started. I no longer run the site (I sold it for a few hundred) and I never made money (besides selling it) but it was the foundation of where I am at today.

    Pick a niche you like->create unique content->play by the rules->use social media and do not sweat the small stuff.

    You will be rewarded in the end.

     
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