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Host all PBN domains in only a VPS + CDN to hide the VPS IP address

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Automation247, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. Automation247

    Automation247 Regular Member

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    Hello guys,

    I'm going to start my own PBN soon, and I would like to read a few opinions about if you think is a good idea to host all my PBN domains in the same VPS + use a CDN (Cloudflare, Incapsula...etc) for hide/mask my VPS IP address.

    I'm pretty sure all this is going to work... how google bots will know that domain1.com, domain2.com and domain3.com are in the same host? that's really imposible to know from my point of view... these domains never will be linked between them and I always will diversify the inbound backlinks of my money site with GSA (for archors text like brand names, domain url..etc) so the bot shouldn't suspect if for example the 10% of my money site backlinks are from Cloudflare aka my pbn domains and won't interrelate the domains and finally flag/penalize the pbn domains.

    ¿What's you opinion? I know SEO isn't a exact science and maybe this will work or won't work.. but if I'm honest I guest it really will work 100%.
     
  2. DanDD

    DanDD Junior Member

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    buy ip for each site and then use cloudflare
     
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    hurremsultan Newbie

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    If all public info such as IP and nameservers appear different, you should be fine.
     
  4. Automation247

    Automation247 Regular Member

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    The point of use a CDN service is not buy a dedicated IP address.

    Cloudflare uses random nameservers like:

    Name Server: AMY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
    Name Server: DAN.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

    Name Server: greg.ns.cloudflare.com
    Name Server: rose.ns.cloudflare.com

    So I'll try to get a different NS for each domain... also I'll use around 5 different CDN providers for mix it and avoid footprints.
     
  5. DanDD

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    that's up to you, but i think google is able to find sites on a server behind cloudflare
     
  6. Automation247

    Automation247 Regular Member

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    Yeah... probably I'll buy a IP address for each domain, 2.00€ per IP not worth take any risk.
     
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    choppa2choppa Registered Member

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    Would it matter much that all the domains would be on the same hosting provider??
     
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    I'll be using a popular hosting provider that millions of websites are using... and my money sites will have more backlinks than my PBN backlinks, so in my opinion it would look natural.

    If I'm pointing 20 PBN domains to my money site and all my PBN domains are from X hosting provider but I have like 1.000 backlinks made with GSA this should help me to diversify that footprint (hosting provider) because these 1k backlinks will be using other hosting providers...etc

    Maybe I'm wrong... I hope not :)
     
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    i read about alexpbn guru were testing this method maybe 1 or 2 years back? i think it will work if you figure it out, you can contact him for more info

    in my opinion, never put yourself into a too dangerous situation, think the ROI
     
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    I think you are definitely on the right track.

    But if you want a bulletproof approach I would suggest that you just totally scramble the hosting services that you use.

    What I mean by this is to completely distribute all these different websites and domains using different hosting providers.

    You should even use different geographic basis.

    For example, some of your hosts might be in the United States. Others are from Canada while others are from Western Europe.

    This way you keep Google guessing.

    Also, in term of niche-clustering this is another area where you might want to work on throwing Google off.

    The more random your distribution looks like, the higher the likelihood your PBN will go undetected.

    Personally speaking, I really would step away from the PBN system because it's only a matter of time until Google deploys dropped domain filters.

    If and when that happens, a lot of people are going to find out in the hardest way possible that PBNs are not the way to go.

    If I were you, I'd focus on staying two steps ahead of the game.
     
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