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Holy crap! Is my Hard Drive gonna die?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by BlackSeng, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. BlackSeng

    BlackSeng Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Okay, several days back my laptop fell on the floor due to a stupid dream (created a thread about this a while back).

    So after that incident (or perhaps by coincidence?) my laptop started to lag. Yesterday was the worst... it took nearly 5 minutes to get pass the login screen as it was loading... the first few minutes after startup, everything is smooth and fast... but after that few minutes, everything would lag terribly.

    Sometimes when I click the "Start" button, it will freeze for a moment.
    But if I were to wait or tolerate for about 10-15 minutes, the laptop suddenly becomes fast and normal again... but only for a few minutes and it would return back to its lagging state.

    Today it suddenly got worst. Took nearly 10 minutes for startup. I ran the Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool and everything came back perfect. Used the tool from hddscan.com and everything was perfect.
    The lag somehow seems to be "a little" better.

    Is this is a sign of a hard drive failure?

    P.S: It is lagging a little as I'm typing this thread... backing up all my stuffs as I type.

    And if the worst scenario comes true and I have to get a new hard drive, should I just install the classic old Windows XP or Windows 7?
     
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  2. Nemizr

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    Try defragmenting the HDD. Also, just as a safety measure scan for viruses and all that jazz.
    I'm sorry to say this, but your hardrive sounds pretty bad..
     
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  3. aftershock2020

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    Sounds bad, bud. Check into pcdoctor and ccleaner...both free and both find just about anything. I use them to clean machines all the time...they find new, little crap no one knows about yet.

    check them out.

    Hope that helps.
     
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  4. sensitiveheart_4

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    I can be a problem of RAM or BIOS or may be its time that you should format your lappy


    ;)
     
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  5. GreyWolf

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    That brings up a good point. Remember the HD isn't the only thing that can get jostled around if you drop a laptop.

    You could very well be having an HD problem, but I'd suggest first to remove the ram cover, remove and reinstall your ram sticks. On many occasions om the past, I've found poorly seated ram to cause the very problem that you're describing.

    Good luck.
     
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  6. crashus

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    What you really need to do first is to check your HDD with smartmontools, and then with MHDD util

    Most-likely your HDD will be damaged, and in this case use acronis to create a full backup to external HDD (don't forget "delete windowd drivers" checkbutton) and restore it to a new hard drive.

    You can also run memtest to check your RAM
     
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  7. BlackSeng

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    ok thanks guys. Just reformatted my laptop.
    Well, not really reformat but I used Dell's recovery image thingy.
    It simply reformats the hard-disk and applies the clone of the factory settings copy.

    Strangely, everything is fast and normal now. No more lags or whatsoever.
    It means the hardwares were perfectly fine.
    But seriously... wtf? I didn't install any shit or modify the registry system... I wonder what caused it...
     
  8. Amsterdammer

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    If I look at this logically:

    A busted HDD would either not boot or lose information. This would cause your system to "hang". However, there are easy checks for that.

    I agree with GreyWolf on the memory chips not always being installed properly. No harm in reinserting them.

    I never tried this software but it should give you some more information. The page is two years old, I know.
    It has been a while since I had my last hdd crash. :p

    http://www.troublefixers.com/test-hard-disk-condition/

    The above is just my opinion, no guarantees on anything but I hope it helps. :)
     
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  9. jazzc

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    No, it does not. A low level format identifies the problematic areas of the hard drive and excludes them from being available to the OS. That does not mean your hardware is not damaged. Make sure you keep frequent back ups of your important stuff.
     
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  10. bornformoney

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    Above post from jazzc is something to be taken into consideration.

    Alongside, I would suggest you check the jumpers and if they are attached properly after that drop. Once, when I had a similar instance it was the HHDs actuator that got effected and as a result the whole head stack malfunctioned causing it to deny read/write data.

    It performed well for a bit, and I did a reformat as well but eventually the problems never perished.

    If I were you, I wouldn't risk anything big on it, just get a newer one.
     
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  11. meatro

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    Of all the things on your computer, the 2 components which in my experience are most likely to fail are memory (RAM) and the hard drive.

    Unless you are working on a machine which you do not store important information on, you should always back up your data. There are tons of tools which will continuously back up files in the background either to the internet or (preferably) to an external drive. You should also ALWAYS be running virus scanning software such as Avast (free).

    Your system hanging could be due to many things. Could be a bad HDD, could be a piece of software, could be something mis-configured, improperly seated hardware, virus, etc. etc.

    I would suggest that you do a thorough check of the hard drive and if everything comes back good.. Maybe pop the covers off your memory and hard drive to ensure proper seating. Depending on your level of technicality, you may want to open the laptop up entirely to make sure ALL of the internals are in tact and CLEAN(!!!).

    Hopefully everything checks out... Hard drives are at ridiculous prices right now.
     
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  12. cyadron

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    First thing you should do - just to be sure - back up your important data.
    Usually an impact could damage the hdd.
    Next you should check when you have the lag - if your hdd led is on and also if the hdd makes some weird noise. This should be your 1st indicator something is wrong with the hdd.
    Next you should run a scan to see if there are any bad sectors on your hdd. Go grab hiren's boot cd, burn it on a CD and boot from it and then run HDD Scan 3.3 - and surface test. Wait for it to finish - it takes a while depending on your hdd size and see if you have any errors. If you do not I think you could try and format your C: drive (assuming you have more partitions and you already copied your important information from drive c:, desktop, my documents) and reinstall windows 7 x64 (assuming you have 2 gb of ram or more and a cpu that supports x64 instructions -check cpu-z if you do not know). If you need more info you can PM me.
    Good luck!
     
  13. HoNeYBiRD

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    bad sectors on your HDD maybe, you formatted it, and fortunately it was enough

    next time you can try checking your HDD for errors from command line with chkdsk:
    Code:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
     
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