I'm getting that nag message saying I should post here so I am. I'm hoping to learn and share "blackhat" tricks here. The reason I use quotations around blackhat is because I never cared for the whitehat/blackhat jargon, but that's a whole other issue. My background is mainly in cloaking. A few years ago I bought search engine cloaker (SEC) and was very disappointed with it. Not only did it work mediocre, you have to spend 3 or $400 on plugins and crap just to get some halfway decent features. As far as I'm concerned, SEC is a scam and I feel bad for people who buy it. A few months after lousy results with SEC I started working on my own personal cloaker and I've been refining it ever since then. I'm not selling mine so this isn't spam, but I will say I'm very happy with mine and it has been a mad dog when it comes to getting pages indexed. Mine is also nearly impossible to detect, doesn't use a database (like lots of others) and has tons of better features than SEC ever had all built right in. So, that's a little bit about my background and that's why I'll probably be checking out the cloaking forum the most.