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Hobbyist Journey to $120 a day using mobile applications and affiliate sales.

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by AppCentral, Oct 9, 2015.

  1. AppCentral

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    Hello fellow members at BlackHatWorld and thank you for showing interest in my Journey, all comments and questions are appreciated!


    So, I've been on BlackHatWorld for quite awhile, however just not a member. I've probably been lurking and reading for around a year now. I finally took the time to register a few days ago and post a Journey thread, considering I finally think I'm ready. Over the last year I've had my eyes on the prize and I knew what I wanted to do. Mobile applications. I feel that there's a great chance for profit here, and mobile devices are taking over on every level for our every-day lives.

    My approach to this isn't going to be creating applications that sell items, however. That's not going to be their intended purpose. I will have reviews for products and a place to purchase the product (Through of-course an affiliate vendor) depending on the Niche of the application. However the main functionality of the application is actually going to be beneficial and have a real use case to the user. It will give them a reason to open the application and use it frequently. Here's a quick example (Although thought of at the top of my head, and doesn't really have the use factor that I'm thinking about).

    Let's say a user downloads my application called "Good Food & Good Reviews" (I might actually do this, catchy name, haha) which lists restraints within X miles (or kilometers) of you based on your search options. It will then order them by reviews (Submitted to the application by local users, for example someone reviewing McDonalds 500 miles away doesn't matter, someone reviewing this McDonalds does though). You can then of-course filter the results by the kind of food that you want to eat. The application should feature a map locator and real-time navigation. This application obviously has some use potential, especially for people that like trying out new places. Now, on-top of this we can have a section of the application for "at-home" foods. The user can order this food online. Categories would include food to help you lose weight / burn fat, or even gain weight. (A good thing to remember is, that not everyone wants to lose weight. A lot of people actually want to gain it). You can purchase this from within the application through whatever payment provider you're using for your affiliate vendor. (Probably Paypal or Amazon payments) If you want to make it even more interesting, you could sell the items from within your application (Through google play / apple store) so they never have to enter a credit card and then process the order yourself to their address. (A little more work on your end, A little less on theirs, plus they will be more likely to use a trusted and simple payment source they've probably used hundreds of times before).

    Simple things like that are the kind of applications I'll be making in numerous different niches. I'll be using Facebook advertisements and groups to get my applications out to the people and will be focusing on getting the application going in certain areas at a time. This way word of mouth will also help with advertising, because the chances of something say "Hey have you heard of X, everyone is using it" is going to be much higher if you focus in a single area.

    First application: Mobile dating platform. (Not a rip-off)
    Me and a friend thought it would be interesting to work on a mobile dating application that was different. We're not going to be there to scrape money from our users and we're not trying to be a clone of the bigger companies. In fact our application is really different and quite unique. I can honestly say it's the first of it's kind and is bringing mobile dating into the present. The application is currently in polishing stages and we have big expectations for it. We've talked to numerous investors and we feel like this could be our ticket. I will be posting more information about the application as we launch in the very, very near future. (Within the month).

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    Please keep in mind that this is a Hobbyist Journey, and while I'm working on things when I can I have other responsibilities such as school, taking care of my family, etc. I will post updates whenever possible, or whenever an update needs to be posted. Until our application goes live there's will not any updates to be posted on its status. I will be working on one application at a time and posting here when they're completed, keeping track of downloads, sales, profit, etc.
     
  2. TeamSocial

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    Good luck in your journey, and I love the enthusiasm.

    I gotta say though, you're app ideas are food reviews where competitors are already doing the exact thing, and a dating app. Not only are these extremely complex applications (like most dating apps are full time social network/dating platform hybrids). But you've got a very limited team and limited resources.
     
  3. AppCentral

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    The idea of using food was just an example for the thread and has nothing to do with the niches that I've studied. The niches that I'm going to be going into are potentially untapped (on mobile) as far as mobile sales go. I also have applications that will bring in income through other means, not just affiliate sales. I have a white-board with my applications planned out as well as my marketing ideas. Ways of monetizing the applications I currently have planned out are as follows:

    • Affiliate marketting
    • Advertisements
    • In-application sales
    • Subscriptions

    As for the dating application I'm well aware of what it takes to maintain. The application itself (and back-end) is actually already completed, and we're just polishing (graphically) and talking to investors before the launch coming up next week. We've actually gotten quite a few AI/VC's interested in it, and we're thinking about joining an accelerator program in one of the towns that we live in. Just for the experience.
     
  4. kahuna74

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    Good luck, my friend. I, too, write apps, and feel that mobile-first should be the default. Even in the simple keyword app I made (check out my journey if you want), I thought of mobile first, because that's where 99% of the traffic will come from in the future.

    Good luck to you, and I'll be following this thread. I hope you'll be posting your plans (not niches but perhaps a rough sketch, and how you're organizing things).
     
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    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Good luck on creating your application!
     
  6. AppCentral

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    Organization is pretty basic, I'm just using google-documents and writing pretty much a one-page report on every interface in my application. The functionality, and then deep thought on what could happen incase of X so I can prepare for it. I don't really have a design in mind when writing my applications, it's more of a functionality that I have in mind and the design kind-of just appears over time. Luckily my friend is great with designs and I've had him go over everything in Photoshop to get professional looking application interfaces.

    As for as marketing organization, I'm not really doing any research. I'm just creating applications for what I know has a demand and then throwing my product out there. I'm basically playing the lottery with a golden ticket.
     
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    good luck with your journey
     
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    Good luck on your journey OP :) Any new updates?
     
  9. AppCentral

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    Ran into some trouble with Apple where an apple iOS device was required to publish the application. This is strictly my fault and was the result in lack of research on publishing to an apple store. (I've published to android in the past). Because of this I had a few days of free time to tinker with the application and make improvements before the release. I've changed our backend from using AJAX calls with an Apache/PHP setup, to using a WebSocket server built in NodeJS with Ping/Pong keep-alive scheduled once every 20 seconds, with an application timeout of 10 minutes to preserve battery life. I've also implemented a binary data library to allow transfer of binary data in Javascript, instead of sending JSON messages. This will save on a lot of bandwidth. (Roughly 20-150b per message, at a rate of around 5 messages / user(active) / second).

    Finally went and picked up a new iPhone 6s+ yesterday and got the development build of the application out and on test-flight. Going over some final polishing with my partner tonight and then submitting to the application store.

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    After this I'm either going to be working on my website, or another mobile application. I feel like a website for JV/Freelancing would be more beneficial that way I'll have more funds to promote my own applications when I write them. Who knows, maybe I'll find people who want to profit off of my applications as much as I do and we can make a deal.