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Hmmm Should I trust this SEO company?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Logician, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. Logician

    Logician BANNED BANNED

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    So I hired an SEO company to build me a website. I've been in this forum for awhile learning as much as I can because the seo world is interesting stuff. Now I'm becoming skeptical of the job being done. They say they can guarantee the site they created for me ranks on first page in 6 months. I haven't checked all the pages, but every page that I have checked is completely plagiarized, and using smallseotools it says it has less then 20 backlinks.. Do you guys think this might be some type of strategy or should I look else where to have seo work done?
     
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    Yeah, it is awesome strategy. Plagiarized content=1st page of Google
     
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    If it's duplicate content, you can change now
     
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    LOL. Epic fail. Spun content is the worst thing you can do to a site.
    Drop them now before its too late.
     
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    Red Flag right there! Nobody besides google/target search engine can give you this guarantee.
     
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    You should use providers on BHW versus any local SEO companies
     
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  7. Logician

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    Checked the main page, nothing is plagiarized there, but everything in the blog section is. What a bummer, I've already paid these guys a good amount, and they will not give me access to the site until I've completely paid them. All my marketing for my business was suppose to be through this site, and I needed to rank by June.. Me and my family are screwed unless I can figure out a solution :(
     
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    first, it depends what that company selecting keywords for you and what content they are using. after that , 6 Months is Big Amount of Time. Normally SEO Companies says We guarantee 90 days in Top 10 or Money Back. So it depends why they asking for 6 Months..!!
     
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    To be honest. Companies that says Top in 90 days guaranteed are all frauds. No one can guarantee rankings. You can only promise improvements.
     
  10. Logician

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    The content is keyword related but it is not original content. So I'm guessing that would not benefit the site in any way, and actually might hurt it. I don't know how accurate smallseotools is but based off that tool the exact same backlinks have been there since they started working on the site. The only thing I could think is that they are drip feeding links very very slowly??? But for what they charged me to build the site, I would think the content would all be original.
     
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    That's not true. My firm can guarantee top 3 in 21 days and get the results to stick. No bullshit or sales hype. We're extremely good at what we do. We've even done it for members on this forum.

    We've done this for 1 and multi-word terms. With extreme competition and over 100K monthly exact US searches.
     
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    Incorrect. My company can produce results in 30 days, it's just a matter of understanding the trade, which we comprehend which methods get you to the top VERY well. OP: Go with another provider.
     
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    Awesome, I need top 3 for Best buy Credit cards, Credit Cards and Payday Loans
     
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  14. mikeydell

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    Ahh yes, the good ole We guarantee first page placement. Nobody can guarantee you that period. If any of us SEO's could 100% guarantee 1st page position for any given keyword, then obviously by now we would have so much money that we would not need to be performing SEO work for a living.

    I chuckle everytime a new client comes to us saying that the last guy guaranteed them 1st page results, but never delivered. Bottom line to any of you new guys just coming into the IM game. None of us can guarantee that your keyword is going to rank on the first page, that's the only guarantee that you can take to the bank. None of us have a secret in to google, anyone telling you this nonsense is scamming your period. I cant tell you how many times I've seen so called SEO providers try to convince people that they have a "special arrangement" with google that will place you on the first page.

    As a guideline to all you new folks just getting in, a real SEO provider is going to be honest with you and tell you the facts straight up right from the begining.

    He/She is going to make a determination of ranking potential based on a given keyword, for example, keyword "search engine optimization"
    Now that keyword alone brings up 92 million results. Now this where using a little common sense comes into play for the customer, if I was to tell you I could rank your site on first page in 30-60 days would you believe me? I would hope you would say no, as to rank you in the first page we have to beat out the likes of some of the most powerful high authority domain names in the world, not to mention the utter strangle hold they have for that keyword.

    Can it be done? Sure it could but sure as hell not in 6 month or even a year.
    I could go on and on about what to look for in your next SEO provider, and how to choose wisely, but the problem is today, is that everyone is looking for the cheapest and the fastest, and then come and whine when they get shit results.

    Quality SEO COSTS MONEY. PERIOD
    I and alot of other SEO providers on this board have been in this game long enough to know, that handing someone $100 and expecting to rank on any given keyword is nonsense. A quality seo provider is worth his or her weight in gold. And like gold, youre gonna pay for it.

    And OP, if you already have found out that every single page is plagiarized , Why even come on here and ask what you should do?
    If it was me, I would have already been DEMANDING, not asking for a refund.
     
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    Okay, enough of this garbage...

    12 or more months to rank = low - bad quality seo firm
    3-6 months = Good seo firm
    3 months or less = Great seo firm

    Our firm's average ranking time is 3 months or less. Just because you haven't hired a high end firm before doesn't mean we are not out there. We aren't cheap naturally, but we do deliver results.

    @ SkyrocketSEO: If you're serious and have real money to work with, PM me. Otherwise, I'll just assume you were being sarcastic.
     
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    Just so you are aware, my post was not aimed at you or any providers on this board for that matter. I was simply making a point to the OP, because you and I both know, that just by his post he did not hire anything even remotely resembling a Quality SEO Firm.
     
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    And thedemon,

    You said the magic words right here
    Our firm's average ranking time is 3 months or less. Just because you haven't hired a high end firm before doesn't mean we are not out there. We aren't cheap naturally, but we do deliver results.

    My firm is not a cheap one either, but I'm postive that you like us, have been approached by clients expecting to rank big time keywords and offer you a couple of hundred bucks to do it. That was the point I was trying to get across, and just did not word in correctly. Want to rank? Open the wallet.
     
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    I trust this guy. He is one of the few who knows the real SEO.
     
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  19. Logician

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    Doesn't spun mean its switched around? This is copied word for word, and are we saying that copied content will never rank? Or is it possible that this site could still rank?
     
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    What happens when 11 SEO firms guarantee 1st page for same keyword?
    They tell their clients to set Google to show 20 results per page.
     
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